MP Chris Grayling demands BSBV team publish detailed evidence about finances

Croydon Guardian: MP Chris Grayling has demanded the BSBV team publish detailed evidence about how financially viable their plans are MP Chris Grayling has demanded the BSBV team publish detailed evidence about how financially viable their plans are

MP Chris Grayling has demanded the Better Services Better Value (BSBV) team publish detailed evidence about how financially viable their plans for the future of acute services are, after slamming their "back-of-an-envelope" approach to the process.

Speaking to the Epsom Guardian after a heated meeting on the threatened hospital’s future last night, which was attended by 500 people, Mr Grayling said he has again written to the BSBV team to ask them to publish a range of detailed documents before it announces its recommendations next Thursday.

Mr Grayling believes the public needs to see details of capital spending and the work that would be needed to transfer services from five hospitals to three.

He also wants the BSBV team to publish details about the potential impact on Surrey’s hospitals and ambulance services, and about travel times from the area to potential sites where future acute services would be located.

Mr Grayling said: "The fact we had the whole of Blenheim High School’s hall and the canteen absolutely packed and people were turned away by the police outside indicates how people feel about this issue.

"In order to come up with a credible argument for change, the GPs and doctors involved in BSBV have to have a set of proposals that are credible.

"Rushing everything through in two months leaves everyone with the conclusion that they have not done their homework at all. 

"Have they actually properly costed what they are talking about? 

"If you take maternity services, there are 5,000 plus births in Epsom and St Helier a year. 

"The BSBV are talking about building a brand new, stand-alone maternity care unit.  Is the capital there to do it?  

"We are yet to see a proper, thorough assessment backing up what the BSBV team wants to do.  I am not convinced it is there. 

"This is all being done on the back of an envelope."

Mr Grayling said the responses made by the BSBV team to the public’s questions at last night’s meeting were "very insubstantial and lacked detail" and repeated his call for the BSBV process to be stopped and re-started.

When asked whether residents disagree with the principle of improving standards of care by developing centres of excellence as part of a future vision for the NHS, or the way in which the BSBV process has been conducted, Mr Grayling said: "You can’t have the argument about what is best without the evidence with which we can actually get there. 

"And when the argument involves practical changes to services it is doubly important how we can get to that point.

"Genuine and legitimate debate needs to be had about what the future of healthcare needs to look like but what they can’t do is march in stage left and say ‘this is what we’re going to do’ and just announce the downgrading of hospitals."

Mr Grayling also dismissed protesters from the Save Our Hospitals campaign who branded him a traitor at last night’s meeting as "political troublemakers".

He added: "The people who came to protest have no link to the area, they were left-wing activists from Kingston and what they were saying was nonsense." 

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7:02pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Surreydon says...

This totally discredited outfit should be disbanded NOW!!
This totally discredited outfit should be disbanded NOW!! Surreydon

9:28pm Fri 8 Feb 13

richarddonnelly says...

I'm from the Save Our Hospitals campaign - we're a group of people, including workers at Epsom Hospital, who want to fight all cuts to the local NHS.

It's completely hypocritical for Grayling to sit round the cabinet table and approve cuts, then go back to his constituency and pretend to campaign against local closures. Grayling is a liar.

The only way to save all local NHS services is to unite people across Surrey and SW London against cuts and closures. We encourage people to join the march in Kingston on February 16th - we say no to BSBV, no to NHS cuts and no to Grayling's pathetic attempts to marginalise people who want to fight for the NHS.

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I'm from the Save Our Hospitals campaign - we're a group of people, including workers at Epsom Hospital, who want to fight all cuts to the local NHS. It's completely hypocritical for Grayling to sit round the cabinet table and approve cuts, then go back to his constituency and pretend to campaign against local closures. Grayling is a liar. The only way to save all local NHS services is to unite people across Surrey and SW London against cuts and closures. We encourage people to join the march in Kingston on February 16th - we say no to BSBV, no to NHS cuts and no to Grayling's pathetic attempts to marginalise people who want to fight for the NHS. kingstonkonp.wordpre ss.com richarddonnelly

4:06pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Michael Pantlin says...

I'm so glad that such large numbers of local people are refusing to take this health cuts nonesense lying down. Health permitting I'm hoping to get along to the demos myself.
I'm so glad that such large numbers of local people are refusing to take this health cuts nonesense lying down. Health permitting I'm hoping to get along to the demos myself. Michael Pantlin

11:11pm Sun 10 Feb 13

Michael Pantlin says...

richarddonnelly wrote:
I'm from the Save Our Hospitals campaign - we're a group of people, including workers at Epsom Hospital, who want to fight all cuts to the local NHS.

It's completely hypocritical for Grayling to sit round the cabinet table and approve cuts, then go back to his constituency and pretend to campaign against local closures. Grayling is a liar.

The only way to save all local NHS services is to unite people across Surrey and SW London against cuts and closures. We encourage people to join the march in Kingston on February 16th - we say no to BSBV, no to NHS cuts and no to Grayling's pathetic attempts to marginalise people who want to fight for the NHS.

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I'm of the view MP Burstow, failed Care Minister, no less hypocritical.
[quote][p][bold]richarddonnelly[/bold] wrote: I'm from the Save Our Hospitals campaign - we're a group of people, including workers at Epsom Hospital, who want to fight all cuts to the local NHS. It's completely hypocritical for Grayling to sit round the cabinet table and approve cuts, then go back to his constituency and pretend to campaign against local closures. Grayling is a liar. The only way to save all local NHS services is to unite people across Surrey and SW London against cuts and closures. We encourage people to join the march in Kingston on February 16th - we say no to BSBV, no to NHS cuts and no to Grayling's pathetic attempts to marginalise people who want to fight for the NHS. kingstonkonp.wordpre ss.com[/p][/quote]I'm of the view MP Burstow, failed Care Minister, no less hypocritical. Michael Pantlin

8:30am Mon 11 Feb 13

LiberalsOut says...

richarddonnelly wrote:
I'm from the Save Our Hospitals campaign - we're a group of people, including workers at Epsom Hospital, who want to fight all cuts to the local NHS.

It's completely hypocritical for Grayling to sit round the cabinet table and approve cuts, then go back to his constituency and pretend to campaign against local closures. Grayling is a liar.

The only way to save all local NHS services is to unite people across Surrey and SW London against cuts and closures. We encourage people to join the march in Kingston on February 16th - we say no to BSBV, no to NHS cuts and no to Grayling's pathetic attempts to marginalise people who want to fight for the NHS.

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You fail to mention the fact that the local MP Paul Burstow was also in the same cabinet and did not say a word at the time.
My daughter works in the NHS in another part of the country and the biggest problem, as in most Public Sector organisations is the sheer number of Managers wandering about.Cut them by 50% and you do not need to cut any front line services at all.
[quote][p][bold]richarddonnelly[/bold] wrote: I'm from the Save Our Hospitals campaign - we're a group of people, including workers at Epsom Hospital, who want to fight all cuts to the local NHS. It's completely hypocritical for Grayling to sit round the cabinet table and approve cuts, then go back to his constituency and pretend to campaign against local closures. Grayling is a liar. The only way to save all local NHS services is to unite people across Surrey and SW London against cuts and closures. We encourage people to join the march in Kingston on February 16th - we say no to BSBV, no to NHS cuts and no to Grayling's pathetic attempts to marginalise people who want to fight for the NHS. kingstonkonp.wordpre ss.com[/p][/quote]You fail to mention the fact that the local MP Paul Burstow was also in the same cabinet and did not say a word at the time. My daughter works in the NHS in another part of the country and the biggest problem, as in most Public Sector organisations is the sheer number of Managers wandering about.Cut them by 50% and you do not need to cut any front line services at all. LiberalsOut

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