Pensioner suffers 'potentially life-changing' injuries in Croydon town centre after attacker 'runs from mental health centre'

Croydon Guardian: The attack took place in Tamworth Road The attack took place in Tamworth Road

A 71-year-old man suffered "potentially life-changing" head injuries in an apparent unprovoked attack in Croydon town centre yesterday.

Police arrested a 29-year-old man, thought to have run out of an NHS mental health centre before the assault in Tamworth Road just before 2.10pm.

Police are expected to charge the attacker with causing grievous bodily harm later today.

It is understood he emerged from Tamworth Road Resource Centre, which treats adults with servere mental health needs, before the attack.

Paramedics took the elderly victim to St George's Hospital in Tooting, where he remains in a stable condition.

Transport for London (TfL) suspended trams between Reeves Corner and East Croydon for four hours following the attack, which took place on the tracks.

The 29-year-old remains in police custody and detectives are continuing to investigate the assault.

A Metropolitan Police spokesman said: "A 71-year-old man remains in hospital after being assaulted in Tamworth Road. He is in a stable condition but his injuries are potentially life-threatening.

"A 29-year-old man arrested at the scene remains in police custody.

"Detectives are continuing with their enquiries."

Did you see what happened? Call the newsdesk on 0208 722 6351 or email chris.baynes@london.newsquest.co.uk


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12:35pm Tue 18 Feb 14

christhegoth says...

Please be aware:

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If he did run from Tamworth then there are a number of possibilities. Including the bed shortage meaning they could not keep him sectioned properly.

Most Mentally Ill people are genuinely harmless. They're more likely to be mugged than to be the mugger.
Please be aware: http://www.time-to-c hange.org.uk/news-me dia/media-advisory-s ervice/help-journali sts/violence-mental- health-problems If he did run from Tamworth then there are a number of possibilities. Including the bed shortage meaning they could not keep him sectioned properly. Most Mentally Ill people are genuinely harmless. They're more likely to be mugged than to be the mugger. christhegoth

11:29am Wed 19 Feb 14

christhegoth says...

ANNE GILES wrote:
Many mentally ill people are very dangerous. I was pinned against the wall at the Maudsley Hospital by a patient. One of the nurses was threatened with a knife.
Considering what staff like yourself did to those patients ( the lack of care is horrendous & well documented. Schizophrenia misdiagnosis is VERY common and leaves people in agony ) it does not surprise me that 1 or 2 kick off.

Stop misleading people Anne. Most likely your lack of skill caused them to kick off. Seeing as MOST aren't dangerous ( confirmed by official statistics ), and yet you claim otherwise.
[quote][p][bold]ANNE GILES[/bold] wrote: Many mentally ill people are very dangerous. I was pinned against the wall at the Maudsley Hospital by a patient. One of the nurses was threatened with a knife.[/p][/quote]Considering what staff like yourself did to those patients ( the lack of care is horrendous & well documented. Schizophrenia misdiagnosis is VERY common and leaves people in agony ) it does not surprise me that 1 or 2 kick off. Stop misleading people Anne. Most likely your lack of skill caused them to kick off. Seeing as MOST aren't dangerous ( confirmed by official statistics ), and yet you claim otherwise. christhegoth

12:11pm Wed 19 Feb 14

christhegoth says...

christhegoth wrote:
ANNE GILES wrote:
Many mentally ill people are very dangerous. I was pinned against the wall at the Maudsley Hospital by a patient. One of the nurses was threatened with a knife.
Considering what staff like yourself did to those patients ( the lack of care is horrendous & well documented. Schizophrenia misdiagnosis is VERY common and leaves people in agony ) it does not surprise me that 1 or 2 kick off.

Stop misleading people Anne. Most likely your lack of skill caused them to kick off. Seeing as MOST aren't dangerous ( confirmed by official statistics ), and yet you claim otherwise.
To clarify for those reading this:

The Maudsley Wards are well documented as being like big prison wings where people fear attack. Everyone is all piled into the same ward, so the agro are mixed with the nervy. It's messy, and the odd fight does happen. Due to bad design. Now add to that a lack of Occupational Therapues to keep people from getting bored whilst being locked up and it can ( & often is ) a horrible experience being sectioned.

Bethlem, our local, has a new Triage ward so the agro can be separated off from the nervy. Reports so far are that it has really improved the tranquillity of the likes of Gresham.

It is genuinely rare for a Service User ( mentally ill person/patient ) to kick off and get into a fight in the community. But with bed shortages we haven't the space to be as careful as the Public may well ( understandably ) want. We need more money to make that bed-space, and traditionally we've never been given it. If anything we've been cut to the bone. By commissioners, and ultimately by politicians.

I have no problem at all with people flagging this issue up with their Cllrs and MP's ( I have a ton of lovely Service Users who complain about the lack of support on a regular basis ), but please keep it accurate. The last thing these injured people need is a bunch of local thugs trying to drive them out of the area. Only 17% of disabled people are born with their affliction, so these genuinely ill people have usually done nothing wrong. They don't deserve a hate campaign.


Christian, Chair, Croydon Mental Health Forum.
[quote][p][bold]christhegoth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ANNE GILES[/bold] wrote: Many mentally ill people are very dangerous. I was pinned against the wall at the Maudsley Hospital by a patient. One of the nurses was threatened with a knife.[/p][/quote]Considering what staff like yourself did to those patients ( the lack of care is horrendous & well documented. Schizophrenia misdiagnosis is VERY common and leaves people in agony ) it does not surprise me that 1 or 2 kick off. Stop misleading people Anne. Most likely your lack of skill caused them to kick off. Seeing as MOST aren't dangerous ( confirmed by official statistics ), and yet you claim otherwise.[/p][/quote]To clarify for those reading this: The Maudsley Wards are well documented as being like big prison wings where people fear attack. Everyone is all piled into the same ward, so the agro are mixed with the nervy. It's messy, and the odd fight does happen. Due to bad design. Now add to that a lack of Occupational Therapues to keep people from getting bored whilst being locked up and it can ( & often is ) a horrible experience being sectioned. Bethlem, our local, has a new Triage ward so the agro can be separated off from the nervy. Reports so far are that it has really improved the tranquillity of the likes of Gresham. It is genuinely rare for a Service User ( mentally ill person/patient ) to kick off and get into a fight in the community. But with bed shortages we haven't the space to be as careful as the Public may well ( understandably ) want. We need more money to make that bed-space, and traditionally we've never been given it. If anything we've been cut to the bone. By commissioners, and ultimately by politicians. I have no problem at all with people flagging this issue up with their Cllrs and MP's ( I have a ton of lovely Service Users who complain about the lack of support on a regular basis ), but please keep it accurate. The last thing these injured people need is a bunch of local thugs trying to drive them out of the area. Only 17% of disabled people are born with their affliction, so these genuinely ill people have usually done nothing wrong. They don't deserve a hate campaign. Christian, Chair, Croydon Mental Health Forum. christhegoth

12:39pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Dani78 says...

My brother was in the unit at Bethlem in West Wickham, all patients were friendly and co-operative.. My brother advised they treat them like they are prisoners and animals and the main reason for arguments is because of the way staff treat them and this causes no trust and rapport between staff and patients which imo is something that should be built upon from the first moment these poor individuals need to gain and build on considering they are being locked away in a place that is quiet intimidating for those that have no concerns with their health and mental states, he also noticed that in the evening patients were given hot chocolate, my brother declined this and he started to notice that others were being drowsy and going to bed early. He was the only one that didnt take these drinks, they were made behind the drop down serving hatch so patients could not see what was being added etc and he swears down that they were being drugged of a evening to ekep all quiet. My brother suffers from Bio-polar and depression so not mental, and its quiet easy for nurses to say they are mad and not thinking right, its about time they put some under cover patients within these services to see exactkly what these so called professionals are actually doing.. he also witnessed 2 nurses (1 male and 1 female) enter a bedroom and close the door behind them, they were ibn there for around 20 minutes and came out all flustered and quiet obvious to what was going on.. It seems these places have rules of their own.
My brother was in the unit at Bethlem in West Wickham, all patients were friendly and co-operative.. My brother advised they treat them like they are prisoners and animals and the main reason for arguments is because of the way staff treat them and this causes no trust and rapport between staff and patients which imo is something that should be built upon from the first moment these poor individuals need to gain and build on considering they are being locked away in a place that is quiet intimidating for those that have no concerns with their health and mental states, he also noticed that in the evening patients were given hot chocolate, my brother declined this and he started to notice that others were being drowsy and going to bed early. He was the only one that didnt take these drinks, they were made behind the drop down serving hatch so patients could not see what was being added etc and he swears down that they were being drugged of a evening to ekep all quiet. My brother suffers from Bio-polar and depression so not mental, and its quiet easy for nurses to say they are mad and not thinking right, its about time they put some under cover patients within these services to see exactkly what these so called professionals are actually doing.. he also witnessed 2 nurses (1 male and 1 female) enter a bedroom and close the door behind them, they were ibn there for around 20 minutes and came out all flustered and quiet obvious to what was going on.. It seems these places have rules of their own. Dani78

12:42pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Dani78 says...

christhegoth wrote:
christhegoth wrote:
ANNE GILES wrote: Many mentally ill people are very dangerous. I was pinned against the wall at the Maudsley Hospital by a patient. One of the nurses was threatened with a knife.
Considering what staff like yourself did to those patients ( the lack of care is horrendous & well documented. Schizophrenia misdiagnosis is VERY common and leaves people in agony ) it does not surprise me that 1 or 2 kick off. Stop misleading people Anne. Most likely your lack of skill caused them to kick off. Seeing as MOST aren't dangerous ( confirmed by official statistics ), and yet you claim otherwise.
To clarify for those reading this: The Maudsley Wards are well documented as being like big prison wings where people fear attack. Everyone is all piled into the same ward, so the agro are mixed with the nervy. It's messy, and the odd fight does happen. Due to bad design. Now add to that a lack of Occupational Therapues to keep people from getting bored whilst being locked up and it can ( & often is ) a horrible experience being sectioned. Bethlem, our local, has a new Triage ward so the agro can be separated off from the nervy. Reports so far are that it has really improved the tranquillity of the likes of Gresham. It is genuinely rare for a Service User ( mentally ill person/patient ) to kick off and get into a fight in the community. But with bed shortages we haven't the space to be as careful as the Public may well ( understandably ) want. We need more money to make that bed-space, and traditionally we've never been given it. If anything we've been cut to the bone. By commissioners, and ultimately by politicians. I have no problem at all with people flagging this issue up with their Cllrs and MP's ( I have a ton of lovely Service Users who complain about the lack of support on a regular basis ), but please keep it accurate. The last thing these injured people need is a bunch of local thugs trying to drive them out of the area. Only 17% of disabled people are born with their affliction, so these genuinely ill people have usually done nothing wrong. They don't deserve a hate campaign. Christian, Chair, Croydon Mental Health Forum.
Maybe if the NHS got rid of the agency staff and employed fulltime staff this would cut costs and also would have far better staff that would have a genuine care for their patients rather then someone thats stepping in for the next 2 weeks, being paid near on £30.00 per hour and dont give a toss about the clients... the problem is there is no passion for the industry they work within within a lot of the agency staff now days its all about the money...
[quote][p][bold]christhegoth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]christhegoth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ANNE GILES[/bold] wrote: Many mentally ill people are very dangerous. I was pinned against the wall at the Maudsley Hospital by a patient. One of the nurses was threatened with a knife.[/p][/quote]Considering what staff like yourself did to those patients ( the lack of care is horrendous & well documented. Schizophrenia misdiagnosis is VERY common and leaves people in agony ) it does not surprise me that 1 or 2 kick off. Stop misleading people Anne. Most likely your lack of skill caused them to kick off. Seeing as MOST aren't dangerous ( confirmed by official statistics ), and yet you claim otherwise.[/p][/quote]To clarify for those reading this: The Maudsley Wards are well documented as being like big prison wings where people fear attack. Everyone is all piled into the same ward, so the agro are mixed with the nervy. It's messy, and the odd fight does happen. Due to bad design. Now add to that a lack of Occupational Therapues to keep people from getting bored whilst being locked up and it can ( & often is ) a horrible experience being sectioned. Bethlem, our local, has a new Triage ward so the agro can be separated off from the nervy. Reports so far are that it has really improved the tranquillity of the likes of Gresham. It is genuinely rare for a Service User ( mentally ill person/patient ) to kick off and get into a fight in the community. But with bed shortages we haven't the space to be as careful as the Public may well ( understandably ) want. We need more money to make that bed-space, and traditionally we've never been given it. If anything we've been cut to the bone. By commissioners, and ultimately by politicians. I have no problem at all with people flagging this issue up with their Cllrs and MP's ( I have a ton of lovely Service Users who complain about the lack of support on a regular basis ), but please keep it accurate. The last thing these injured people need is a bunch of local thugs trying to drive them out of the area. Only 17% of disabled people are born with their affliction, so these genuinely ill people have usually done nothing wrong. They don't deserve a hate campaign. Christian, Chair, Croydon Mental Health Forum.[/p][/quote]Maybe if the NHS got rid of the agency staff and employed fulltime staff this would cut costs and also would have far better staff that would have a genuine care for their patients rather then someone thats stepping in for the next 2 weeks, being paid near on £30.00 per hour and dont give a toss about the clients... the problem is there is no passion for the industry they work within within a lot of the agency staff now days its all about the money... Dani78

12:44pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Dani78 says...

christhegoth wrote:
ANNE GILES wrote: Many mentally ill people are very dangerous. I was pinned against the wall at the Maudsley Hospital by a patient. One of the nurses was threatened with a knife.
Considering what staff like yourself did to those patients ( the lack of care is horrendous & well documented. Schizophrenia misdiagnosis is VERY common and leaves people in agony ) it does not surprise me that 1 or 2 kick off. Stop misleading people Anne. Most likely your lack of skill caused them to kick off. Seeing as MOST aren't dangerous ( confirmed by official statistics ), and yet you claim otherwise.
chris people like Anne are the ones that shouldnt be working within the industry.. quiet easy to class these poor people has dangerous as they cant speak for themselves because they are drugged up and classed as mental...
[quote][p][bold]christhegoth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ANNE GILES[/bold] wrote: Many mentally ill people are very dangerous. I was pinned against the wall at the Maudsley Hospital by a patient. One of the nurses was threatened with a knife.[/p][/quote]Considering what staff like yourself did to those patients ( the lack of care is horrendous & well documented. Schizophrenia misdiagnosis is VERY common and leaves people in agony ) it does not surprise me that 1 or 2 kick off. Stop misleading people Anne. Most likely your lack of skill caused them to kick off. Seeing as MOST aren't dangerous ( confirmed by official statistics ), and yet you claim otherwise.[/p][/quote]chris people like Anne are the ones that shouldnt be working within the industry.. quiet easy to class these poor people has dangerous as they cant speak for themselves because they are drugged up and classed as mental... Dani78

9:50pm Thu 27 Feb 14

rerelady says...

Dani78 who are you???
Dani78 who are you??? rerelady

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