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7:21am Wednesday 23rd January 2008

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Detectives stormed a brothel 500 metres away from Croydon police station after receiving information that trafficked women were being held there against their will.

The raid in Park Lane came after a sex worker was taped claiming she had been trafficked and was being forced to work as a prostitute - right under the noses of police.

“This latest closure, of a brothel we have been specifically aware of for more than two years, and have reported to local authorities previously, is a place that we have long believed to be hiding and pimping enslaved women."

CCAT spokesman

The brothel was busted but officers were unable to pursue charges of trafficking because the woman was too scared to give evidence.

She has since been helped by outside agencies who are believed to have safely sent her back to her home country of Estonia in the past week.

A second raid is thought to have been executed in Raynes Park at around the same time - believed to be connected with the Croydon brothel.

The raids came about following research carried out by the organisation Croydon Community Against Trafficking (CCAT) who have been monitoring brothels they suspect of using trafficked women.

This is the second time in two years police have used intelligence gathered by CCAT to raid the Park Lane brothel as part of Operation Pentameter - the Met Police unit specialising in trafficking and sexual exploitation.

A spokesman from CCAT said: "This latest closure, of a brothel we have been specifically aware of for more than two years, and have reported to local authorities previously, is a place that we have long believed to be hiding and pimping enslaved women.

"The closure of this brothel and release' of the women being forced to work there, is a vindication of our research and tenacious petitioning to local authorities against the tolerance of traffickers who have been allowed to settle in our borough.

"Most importantly though, this closure means women who were trapped in a situation where they were being enslaved and exploited, are now free."

An Operation Pentameter spokesman said: "From what we understand a television company had been inside the premises filming. Based on that information officers raided a property on January 10.

"The woman in question did not want our assistance. We spoke to the people who were working there and nobody was seeking police assistance. A man was arrested and bailed to return to a police station. No charges have been brought yet."

A television company is thought to have sent a man into the establishment undercover at the beginning of this month as part of its investigations into the sex trafficking trade in Croydon.

While there he secretly filmed a woman allegedly admitting she had been trafficked and forced into sex slavery.

Based on this information officers from Operation Pentameter raided the property on January 10.

A police source, who did not want to be identified, added: "The girl was terrified - she did not want to be a witness so that's why the police could not provide her with support services.

"She was offered more help, which she did not accept. She was scared and did not know who to trust. I believe she has since been taken back to her home in Estonia.

"There were five girls believed to be in there and the guy may face charges of controlled prostitution. For the police to secure a trafficking charge they need to secure a witness which, in this case, was not possible."

  • What do you think? Do you suspect you are living near a brothel using trafficked women? Are you a British sex worker who is appalled at the trafficking industry? Have you used a brothel but were unaware the women could have been trafficked? Contact the newsroom on 020 8330 9556, email: kmcqueeney@london.newsquest.co.uk We can protect your identity.
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W Stead, Croydon says...
8:42am Wed 23 Jan 08

Whilst this is the first of many more that need to be closed in Croydon - the biggest victory is in freedom for victims of the horrendous injustice of Human Trafficking. The report talks of the role of police in this issue - but what about the council, local newspapers and even us as local residents. The council need to clamp down on illegal businesses operating in their area, newspapers have to STOP advertising these places,andstop profiting from traffickers through advertising revenue. Each of us has a role to play as well - in stopping this injustice, being alert to what is happening in our communities around us.

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ANNE GILES, SELSDON says...
9:06am Wed 23 Jan 08

Croyboy, you are the most revolting, nasty piece of work that has ever posted on these sites. Women were not put on this earth for the amusement of men. Police have been trying to stop the cruel, degrading treatment of these women for quite some time. Now shut up and go away.

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halle, sutton says...
9:16am Wed 23 Jan 08

well said anne i totally agree! - after saying that, the sad truth is croyboy is probably correct. How can a police station full of policemen & women! not notice a brothel right next door! Either they were totally stupid - hence why our borough is in such a mess, or they were getting some too.
I dont want to sound so down on situation but unfortuately 9 times out of 10 this is the harsh reality of Britain these days.

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Angie P, Wimbledon says...
9:20am Wed 23 Jan 08

Blimey, Anne - I believe Croyboy was making a joke!

Vile personal attacks are not necessary.

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ANNE GILES, SELSDON says...
10:51am Wed 23 Jan 08

A joke is fine - I love humour, but poking fun of women who have been suffering endlessly is not funny at all.

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Bob Peel, Croydon says...
10:58am Wed 23 Jan 08

halle wrote:
well said anne i totally agree! - after saying that, the sad truth is croyboy is probably correct. How can a police station full of policemen & women! not notice a brothel right next door! Either they were totally stupid - hence why our borough is in such a mess, or they were getting some too.
I dont want to sound so down on situation but unfortuately 9 times out of 10 this is the harsh reality of Britain these days.
halle wrote How can a police station full of policemen & women! not notice a brothel right next door!

What a narrow minded view indeed.

Suppose an officer did notice it - what's he/she going to do - charge in with the rest of his relief to make an arrest?

What about gathering prior evidence? What about support agencies for those *apparently* being made to work there?

Do you know the powers of arrest for a prostitute working in a brothel?

Do you know what rank the officer who makes the decision should be?

Thought not - keep your pathetic views to yourself.

Suppose your one of those lefty type wimmin with more rivets through your lips and ears than the hull of the Titanic.

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Paul, Upper Norwood says...
11:07am Wed 23 Jan 08

This is the second time in two years police have used intelligence gathered by CCAT to raid the Park Lane brothel as part of Operation Pentameter - the Met Police unit specialising in trafficking and sexual exploitation.

Cor!! Any jobs going? Use of laser/radio/audio/te
lephonic apparatus a speciality

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David, Croydon says...
11:31am Wed 23 Jan 08

Glad to hear they are doing something.

A few years ago I lived next door to a brothel. It had eastern european girls who were regularly shipped in and out in what seemed to be a very organised operation. One day a customer dropped a handwritten price list on the floor outside my flat, detailing the services not only there, but at maybe a dozen other brothels around the borough. I called the police, who said they were very interested, and came over to collect it.

I stated that I didn't want a uniformed officer coming over and drawing attention. Of course that is exactly what happened. Two turned up and then stood at my door gesturing at the door of the brothel, asking me questions. The next day heavies came to the brothel and the madame was outside pointing at my front door, presumably talking about the police. The next few weeks were not pleasant as I was half expecting my door to be kicked in, my flat wrecked, or myself to be given a beating.

A few months later I was at court to give evidence for an attempted car theft that I saw. I was talking to the detective and mentioned the brothel. He looked into it, and what I'd handed over had never been logged...

On the whole the police do a great job (including friends of mine who work in the force), but the example I've given above knocked my confidence in them somewhat.

The guys using the brothel certainly didn't seem worried about the situation the young girls were in, and trade was booming.

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muswell, Croydon says...
11:38am Wed 23 Jan 08

One of the sad things coming out of this whole scenario is that it is happening in ordinary residential areas. There is nothing extraordinary or indeed sordid about Park Lane i.e it could be happening in your road.

As W Stead has already said as local residents we need to be alert to what is going on next door and report suspicious activity. Presumably the neighbours in Park Lane didn't want to see or didn't care!

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W Stead, Croydon says...
11:49am Wed 23 Jan 08

It's worth adding that whilst this place might have been very close to the police station, I am quite certain, that like most other brothels which exploit trafficked women, they don't have any kind of neon sign out the front. The hidden reality is exactly that - hidden. Whilst i am as keen as anyone to see police crack down on trafficking in our borough it also worth acknowledging their efforts in the last two years. Ours is one of the only borough's in the country with a specific officer dedicated to look at this issue and coordinate responses - and at the end of the day, when given info by the CCAT group - they responded and shut it down. Think it's time that we stop blaming council, police and everyone else and acknowledge that all of us, including the papers who advertise the services, have a role to play. It's our community, its our problem.

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L Saunders, Croydon says...
12:15pm Wed 23 Jan 08

"safely sent her back to her home country of Estonia"

Wow, that makes a change for the tax payer? Nice touch.

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Marco, Croydon says...
12:30pm Wed 23 Jan 08

Will the Croydon Guardian now vet the adverts for adult services in the classifieds section of the newspaper of carry on happily taking money from these criminal gangs in exchange for publicity?

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Law Enforcer, Surrey says...
12:41pm Wed 23 Jan 08

Thankfully the law is being enforced. We have seen a lot of nonsense about criminalising this trade. If we go down that route we will end up in a very serious black market.

No need, as this raid has shown. We JUST need the existing laws of the land enforced. The police should give more resources to this specialist unit. After all, who can condone slavery of any sort?

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Mr J Jones, Croydon says...
12:46pm Wed 23 Jan 08

I think that the Croydon Guardian have previously answered the question about the adverts?

Whilst they (the advertiser) are not technically advertising sexual services, they are legally obliged to print them. They get around this by saying something along the lines of "You are paying for the company of our women only, any other activities are not included in the price".

Yes, it's wrong and the law should be changed, but you can't really hold that against the Croydon Guardian.

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Angie P, Wimbledon says...
12:52pm Wed 23 Jan 08

But surely the 'massage parlours' advertised in the back of the newspaper are reputable therapy centres? No? I especially like the one that says "7 days from £30". I hope that means 'house open 7 days a week' rather than 'rent a woman from £30 a week'...

And yes, the sex trade is a serious business.

Legalising prostitution could put the illegal places out of business.

Some girls do choose this as a job (just watch that documentary series on TV about prostitution in America). If there are enough willing, legal sex workers, there would no longer be a trade in scared eastern-European women who thought that the UK would be the answer to their prayers.

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Mr J Jones, Croydon says...
12:59pm Wed 23 Jan 08

Of course, Angie. But they are not specifying sexual services?

We all know what is going on here, but our laws are pretty hopeless.

If the advert said "Sex with our girls for £30", then the Croydon Guardian would have the legal power to not publish it. But, the adverts don't say that. They offer massage and/or escorting (= company) Take a look at them.

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Angie P, Wimbledon says...
1:21pm Wed 23 Jan 08

Mrs J, I never said that I disagreed with the adverts going into the paper. I actually find them to be quite entertaining reading material.

And Marco, I believe that the Guardian publishes these adverts (in part at least) to aid the police in their investigations.

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Mr J Jones, Croydon says...
1:33pm Wed 23 Jan 08

Mistress Angie P (- taking the mick because you got my sex wrong), I think that you may have a good point with regards to Marco' comment.

At least if they advertise, the police can send people in undercover, etc, and see what exactly being offered. That way, they can get nicked!

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L Atreides, Croydon says...
2:10pm Wed 23 Jan 08

There is no legal obligation whatsoever to publish the ads.
In fact, the British Code of Advertising, Sales Promotion and Direct Marketing urges members to ensure ads do not incite anyone to break to the law. Clearly the Croydon Guardian is not abiding by that code.
J Jones, please check your facts!

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Croyboy, says...
2:49pm Wed 23 Jan 08

ANNE GILES wrote:
Croyboy, you are the most revolting, nasty piece of work that has ever posted on these sites. Women were not put on this earth for the amusement of men. Police have been trying to stop the cruel, degrading treatment of these women for quite some time. Now shut up and go away.
Fortunately for you Anne, I rarely allow myself to get drawn into ad hominem insults (Although I could always make an exception in your case!), but your "Now shut up and go away" does rather take the cake. I belong here: if anyone should "go away" it's you.
To more serious matters, as I've said previously ("Brothels’ ‘pizza trade’ in trafficked women" Croydon Guardian 6th December 2007), the way to solve the "problem" of trafficked women lies with the immigration control at Heathrow and other ports of entry to the UK. In other words - like Islamic terrorism - the people concerned ought not to have been allowed in to begin with.


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Marco, Croydon says...
2:50pm Wed 23 Jan 08

I do not think that the Croydon Guardian would accept advertisments from my friends in the British Nationalist Party due to the perceived public outcry so why would they accept an advert for a knocking shop which everybody knows is not legal?

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ANNE GILES, SELSDON says...
3:02pm Wed 23 Jan 08

Thank you, Bob Peel for your earlier post explaining things. The fact is that very few people report things. We have that problem here all the time - it's called selective blindness and deafness. It is extremely frustrating when people lie about not having seen or heard something. I have seen something happen outside someone's door - the man was working in his front garden at the time - yet when I asked him what he had seen he said he hadn't seen anything.

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Mr J Jones, Croydon says...
3:21pm Wed 23 Jan 08

L Atreides, there is no law against offering massage services, nor escort services.

This is however a law regarding advertising and selling sex. That is prostitution.

Please check your facts back.

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L Atreides, Croydon says...
5:04pm Wed 23 Jan 08

J Jones,
Both your statements are correct.
What in my post is incorrect and needs checking?
Marco put it well.

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muswell, says...
5:18pm Wed 23 Jan 08

And perhaps Mr Jones should look at the adverts a little more closely. Of 19 under the heading of Adult Services last week less than 50% mentioned massage. How
"Fantasy role play/domination specialists"
can in anyway be associated with massage eludes me. Why also is 'massage' provided via
"under-cover visits to you".
Both I suggest a blatant selling of sex.

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Mr J Jones, Croydon says...
5:22pm Wed 23 Jan 08

L Atreides, we have discrimination laws in this country. Therefore you're apparent fact about not having to publish anything without a certain obligation is obviously nonsense?

There are professional "escort" companies that advertise on in the back of magazines. Apparently ;o)

You cannot prove anything other than what is being advertised unless the Police (or TV reporters) go in, undercover.

Do you think that the Croydon Guardian don't have to publish adverts, just because they or someone within the organisation doesn't feel it's right?

Marco, the BNP can publish what they wish as long as it doesn't incite racial hatred. - That's another law, but off topic. Probably another discussion?

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Mr J Jones, Croydon says...
5:31pm Wed 23 Jan 08

Muswell, I reinforce my comment as previous.

Fantasy roleplay/domination suggests just that.

Neither suggests sex?
Although we know that it probably happens.

Can anyone get their heads around what I am trying to say about the laws in this country?

I am not promoting it or trying to justify it at all. I actually think that it's quite disgusting.

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L Atreides, Croydon says...
7:29pm Wed 23 Jan 08

J Jones,
Discrimination law does not apply in this context. Whether or not to publish an advert is an editorial decision.
The Croydon Guardian's front page statement referring to a legal obligation to publish ads was simply wrong. I really do hope it was a misunderstanding and not a deliberate smokescreen.
Bear in mind that a newspaper group in Wales has already stopped advertising adult services, at considerable cost to their business. This was because of trafficking into the sex trade. You can read about it here:
http://news.bbc.co.u
k/1/hi/wales/7086046
.stm
I hope you will add your voice to those calling our local papers to bring their obvious hypocrisy to an end. Yes, it will be costly for them, but their current position is untenable.

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W Stead, Croydon says...
9:37pm Wed 23 Jan 08

Without wishing to engage in an argument - it might be helpful to contribute that the CCAT has been tracking adult adverts in local newspapers for the last two years. They can apparently also confirm that every one of the adverts advertising in the local papers under the adult services section is offering sex and, with credibility, (evidenced most recently by the 'release' of trafficked women from the Croydon Brothel)state that up to 86% of women in these brothels are highly likley to be trafficked. This figure also correlates with national statistics released by the BBC. Trafficking, immigration and prostitution are tough issues that undoubtedly have links. However it is important to distinguish the differences and definitions between these issues as well.

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Mr J Jones, Croydon says...
11:36pm Wed 23 Jan 08

L Atreides, I don't know where the laws of Wales apply here? Ultimately, it's a different country?

Croydon is is within England? Please enlighten me further..

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Mr J Jones, Croydon says...
11:45pm Wed 23 Jan 08

Look. If it wasn't legal for the Croydon Guardian to publish these adverts, do you really think that they would?

Massage/Escort = exactly that. Sex for money is quite something else.

Does everyone else come from the "Anne Piles" School of Education?

Surely not everyone is that ignorant?

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Joy, Brighton says...
12:03am Thu 24 Jan 08

Glad to see the Guardian highlighting the closure of this brothel. The follow through in not accepting payment for ads for these brothels would show their true colours.

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roger sharp, kenley says...
12:29am Thu 24 Jan 08

I was appalled to read your piece about sex slaves. In confidence i feel i must reveal just how this awful trade in human traffic promotes this horror. It is via the ads on pg 47 of

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roger sharp, kenley says...
12:40am Thu 24 Jan 08

it also seems to me that anyone advertising the services of a sex slave is normally called a pimp. So unless all the ads on pg 47 are placed by friends of the paper, you fall into that group. I do so hope you all feel so prove of yourselves.

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roger sharp, kenley says...
1:24am Thu 24 Jan 08

Having read some of the previous comments I am amazed. The ads on page 47 are for hookers. There is no law that says that a publisher must accept any kind of advert. If this publication chooses to make a few extra quid by taking these ads they are free to do so, and must feel proud of the misery they are a part of . But it hardly rates as a story. If they wanted the police could take any ad on page 47 and close it down.. Perhaps the real story here is just quite how strapped the paper is for cash and the misery and humiliation that the woman reporter who wrote the piece must feel working for a paper with such standards.

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halle, sutton says...
9:12am Thu 24 Jan 08

Bob Peel wrote:
halle wrote: well said anne i totally agree! - after saying that, the sad truth is croyboy is probably correct. How can a police station full of policemen & women! not notice a brothel right next door! Either they were totally stupid - hence why our borough is in such a mess, or they were getting some too. I dont want to sound so down on situation but unfortuately 9 times out of 10 this is the harsh reality of Britain these days.
halle wrote How can a police station full of policemen & women! not notice a brothel right next door! What a narrow minded view indeed. Suppose an officer did notice it - what\'s he/she going to do - charge in with the rest of his relief to make an arrest? What about gathering prior evidence? What about support agencies for those *apparently* being made to work there? Do you know the powers of arrest for a prostitute working in a brothel? Do you know what rank the officer who makes the decision should be? Thought not - keep your pathetic views to yourself. Suppose your one of those lefty type wimmin with more rivets through your lips and ears than the hull of the Titanic.
get over yourself bob you pathetic little man, you are so unbelieveably offensive - grow up you silly inseignificant little person

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ANNE GILES, SELSDON says...
9:20am Thu 24 Jan 08

Halle, you silly creature, Bob is a retired police officer who knows exactly what he is talking about. He is neither pathetic, little, insignificant or offensive. Just pointing out the facts. If you can recall the Fred West case in Gloucester, when women were murdered, cut up and hidden amongst the walls, and neither police nor neighbours ever imagined what was going on. Things happen all over the place, and people do not notice. That is the society we live in. There would be no reason for police to notice, when they come out of Croydon police station to tackle crime. Or should they stop just around the corner in case there is a building with funny goings-on in it??? Perhaps a police officer to stand outside each and every home in the borough? Are you willing to pay for it??

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halle, sutton says...
9:25am Thu 24 Jan 08

no i never said that did i? i was merely putting my opinion across, please mistake me if i'm wrong, but isn't that what everybody is doing on here? why do some people like bob feel that their opinion is more superior than everybody elses. You do not know for sure that he was a police officer, just as you don't know my occupation. I do not expect to come on and give my unoffensive opinion and be insulted by a silly little man. Prehaps some people on here need to learn some manners - get your head out of your rear end bob

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jeremy kyle, under the bed says...
9:29am Thu 24 Jan 08

my god the insults are flying - i must say though, bob peel is exceptionally rude. Halle was only expressing her view, there was no need to get so personal.

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ANNE GILES, SELSDON says...
9:49am Thu 24 Jan 08

He doesn't mean to be rude. Just gets fed up of people saying silly things. He has stated quite categorically that he is a retired police officer and his knowledge of police work shows him to be correct. Why would anyone lie about their job anyway?

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AUNTIE BOKO, SOMEWHERE says...
9:51am Thu 24 Jan 08

Occasionally one reads posts which sound as though the writer had a brain not dissimilar to that of a hippopotamus with severe learning difficulties - that is when the insults start flying!!

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L Atreides, Croydon says...
9:58am Thu 24 Jan 08

J Jones,
No one has said the Guardian is breaking the law.
You are more than welcome to tell us which uniquely English law prevents the Guardian doing what the Welsh group did.
The ads are still in our papers because they pull in the profits - it's that simple.

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Hauptmann Gerd Weissler, NVA HQ says...
10:15am Thu 24 Jan 08


I recognise halle and jeremy kyle as one and the same person and claim my £10 prize.

Incidentally some people on here feel their opinions are more superior on here than others, because they usually are.



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Bob Peel, Croydon says...
10:57am Thu 24 Jan 08

"get over yourself bob you pathetic little man, you are so unbelieveably offensive - grow up you silly inseignificant little person"

It appears halle that you are one of those who likes to hand it out but can't take it back.

Since you have actively insulted me (note mine was supposition) I now recognise your similarity with Eastenders character of Pat Butcher!

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halle, sutton says...
12:22pm Thu 24 Jan 08

funny that because i would almost garentee that ur all past it old codgers on here anyway - pat butcher?! haha dream on mate you have no idea! - im on here for laughs peeps u lot are being deadly serious thats the sadest part, you really have nothing better to do?!
god i hope i dont get like you lot in my old age - which yes is a bl00dy long way off yet!
laterz loosers :D

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ANNE GILES, SELSDON says...
1:24pm Thu 24 Jan 08

Being a retired police officer does not mean that the man is an "old codger" or "past it". That, incidentally, usually happens when one is 80+ years old, not when one is still middle aged. Halle is obviously only just out of nappies and sees people as being a lot older than they are.

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Bob Peel, Croydon says...
1:37pm Thu 24 Jan 08

halle wrote:
funny that because i would almost garentee that ur all past it old codgers on here anyway - pat butcher?! haha dream on mate you have no idea! - im on here for laughs peeps u lot are being deadly serious thats the sadest part, you really have nothing better to do?!
god i hope i dont get like you lot in my old age - which yes is a bl00dy long way off yet!
laterz loosers :D
Being serious - of course; we certainly couldn't leave matters in the hands of the young, reckeless and obviously poorly educated such as yourself.

Badly educated? Just look at halle's syntax, expression and spelling.

Now you've said your insults halle, pop down to Turtles and buy even more rivets to disfugure yourself with.


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halle, sutton says...
1:53pm Thu 24 Jan 08

well i think i mite do that ya no bob. after all im sure your a hell of a lot better looking and in better shape than me. you can tell your old because otherwise you would no that im not badly educated im using text language wich is a lot faster and still says the same thing. I would say that that makes me slightly more intelligent than you guys typin the whole thing. Ignorance wont get you anywhere sunny jim - im off to disfigure myself now haha bitter old man

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Tim Duke, Croydon says...
3:28pm Thu 24 Jan 08

Halle: How can a police station full of policemen & women! not notice a brothel right next door! Either they were totally stupid - hence why our borough is in such a mess, or they were getting some too.

Mature ex-police officer Bob's response: Thought not - keep your pathetic views to yourself. Suppose your one of those lefty type wimmin with more rivets through your lips and ears than the hull of the Titanic.

Whoever is making up the character Bob, could you not have made him such a bore?

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ANNE GILES, SELSDON says...
4:29pm Thu 24 Jan 08

Since when is being sensible boring? If one of my students were to submit something in writing in Halle's English, I would refuse to mark it.

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M Spencer, Croydon says...
8:34pm Thu 24 Jan 08

It's great to read that one less establishment is exploiting trafficked women. Well done to all whose commitment and effort has achieved this result. The Croydon Guardian and other local papers which take money from 'adult services' such as these and advertise them should look long and hard at their own complicity in such exploitation. It seems to me that they have a responsibility to do whatever is within their power to combat human trafficking. Refusing to advertise services such as these would be a step in the right direction.

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A Scott, Croydon says...
9:54pm Thu 24 Jan 08

I am very pleased the Guardian are highlighting this issue, I have had a number of concerns recently about a 'sauna and spa' opposite my house which only caters for men. In over 5 years I have never seen a women enter or leave the building, which makes me worried that women are being held there. I asked a male friend to call them to see exactly what they do, and unsurprisingly he was offered sex over the phone.

I am always dismayed to see the Guardian advertise these establishments in their paper, especially as its a free publication, not one that we have to make the effort to go and buy. This kind of provocative material should not be readily available to children's eyes. It does both men and women a great dis-service, not to mention prolonging the misery of women caught up in this trade.

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ANNE GILES, SELSDON says...
10:28pm Thu 24 Jan 08

A. Scott, you MUST report this house to police asap!!!

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Marion West, Whitethoen Ave Church Coulsdon says...
8:18am Fri 25 Jan 08

I was extremely pleased to see the article you published on the brothel raid and the freeing of an enslaved sex worker. However it seems somewhat hypocritical to publish that one the front page but still accept dubious adverts on the back page. I would urge to help in the fight against trafficking by refusing to accept such adverts.
Thank you

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halle, sutton says...
9:18am Fri 25 Jan 08

yes, a.scott you must report it - if something terrible happens you will always have it on your concious.

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W Wilberforce, Keston says...
9:36am Fri 25 Jan 08

Glad to see latest postings have got back to the seriousness of this subject. Research by London Metro University found that around 60% of men buying sex made contact through ads in local papers. Other research confirms that in Croydon and other London boroughs massage/sauna parlours need to have a special licence issued by the Council. Having looked at the website of CCAT, I am shocked to find that except one none of these 'massage' establishments are properly licensed. So the bottom line is that they are illegal businesses and for that reason this and other local papers should immediately stop publishing these ads.

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Orwell, . says...
3:19pm Sat 26 Jan 08

Brothels near police stations, must be an international trend 'cause I just read this:
http://www.thelocal.
se/5791/20061213/

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lb, North London says...
3:23am Sun 27 Jan 08

Another great benefit of being a member of the EU! Now we can import sex slaves from East Europe, as well as from Africa, South America etc...
That's why we joined the Common Market(as it was called then) all those years ago..and it's only costing us £15billion a year!!

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Croyboy, says...
8:05am Sun 27 Jan 08

lb wrote:
Now we can import sex slaves...

Sex slaves, Romanian kids for picking pockets, African kids to obtain welfare payments,TB cases, AIDS patients, terrorists, Russian mafiosi...
Oh, let us rejoice at the variety of scum washing up on our shores!



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Blue, croydon says...
9:02pm Sun 27 Jan 08

God do we all want to live in a Police state get a life this happens in life we do we need the goverment and there soliders how to tell us to live you need to start enjoying yourself you only have a short time on this earth and we seem to spen so much time controlling people or bombing there countries to bits, if you want a police state go and create one but let the rest of us live life

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Blue, croydon says...
9:13pm Sun 27 Jan 08

Think about it 75% of the people in this country have or do smoke cannabis they also enjoy a varied and exicting sex life they also earn most of the money but we are told what to do but a bunch of tossers who represent 1% of the real people get a life dont die without enjoting it

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Croyboy, says...
8:37am Mon 28 Jan 08

Hi Blue do you talk like you write 'coz if you do I reckon you'd run out of breath 'an die 'coz you don't pause from beginning to end with no commas or full stops and are you one of the ones who smoke cannabis and are you indulging right now 'coz it seems like you are.


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L Atreides, Croydon says...
11:29am Mon 28 Jan 08

Sad to see the Croydon Guardian has been ignoring the call to remove its hypocritical sex ads for several years now:
http://www.croydongu
ardian.co.uk/search/
display.var.523343.0
.no_to_newspaper_sex
_ads.php

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S,Whistler, Surrey says...
12:58pm Mon 28 Jan 08

Croydon Community Against Trafficking (CCAT) who have been monitoring brothels they suspect of using trafficked women.
Contact the BNP, they seem to be the only party that care about immigrant crime.

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ANNE GILES, SELSDON says...
11:11am Tue 29 Jan 08

Why would anyone vote for a racist party? The BNP don't care about white crime. Anyway, who says the crime is being perpetrated by immigrants? The poor victims are immigrants, though. Most immigrants are lovely, law abiding people. Many British people are not.

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Croyboy, says...
3:31pm Tue 29 Jan 08

I for one, Anne, don't care if the BNP is racist or not; the point is they're the only party which is likely to do anything about the veritable invasion this country has experienced in the past twenty years. Indeed, they're the only people in UK politics
who have the guts to even mention it!

Anne wrote:
Anyway, who says the crime is being perpetrated by immigrants?

Nobody. However, as has been shown time and again, certain immigrant groups are responsible for a disproportionately large amount of street crime.

Anne wrote:
Most immigrants are lovely, law abiding people.

You really do have a talent for the non sequitur, Anne. (Amongst other things!) So what if "most immigrants" are nice or nasty, good or bad, intelligent or stupid? The fact is that we're bursting at the seams and don't need any more people.

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Marco, Croydon says...
10:29am Wed 30 Jan 08

Croyboy is absolutely correct, London and the South East is at breaking point with the number of people who have moved here. I for one think that the Scots, Scousers, & Geordies that have moved down here as economic migrants should return home. They've had a good run at making some money in London but we can't support them any more. It would also lessen the burden on the police force if they did not have to deal with their drunken antics quite so often and maybe then they would have the time to investigate these slave houses that are operating from within a stone's throw from their police stations.

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reality, says...
4:55pm Wed 30 Jan 08

Croydon women should be more charitable to men in providing sex this is what is needed! Discuss!

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ANNE GILES, SELSDON says...
10:33pm Thu 31 Jan 08

Marco - what a wonderful idea! I also see that we have a weirdo putting comments in. Women do not provide sex for men. Sex happens between two people and is an expression of love. It is not one person providing for another.

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Daniel Paredes, Munster, Indiana, USA says...
5:58am Fri 8 Feb 08

Finally! Another victory. We proclaim Freedom to the slaves. The Salvation Army around the is working againts this evil business. We are not just praying and waiting. We are supporting and working face to face againts that. If you are in this condition or sutuation, or you have suspition about this activity, you can report to the police or to The Salvation Army close by to you.

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carla richards, croydon says...
10:11am Wed 9 Jul 08

well if the romanian kids would have been able to have finacial help from this country would have been worse..anyway i know very well a mother with 4 daughters, all 1000% british and they all prostitutes by the way..they have really bad habits about wearing only designer wear and taking cocain each saturday, so they all got into prostitution as it gives them a life style that they will not be able to have if they work as an average person.well there is not too much to say about the prostitutes from eastern europe, they kinda stupid if they in the situation of beeing scared to talk, low level obviously, if you know who you are and what rights you have they you won't end up like that.while i was living in spain i have never ever seen so many prostitues on the streets in my entire life. i lived on caille fuencaral , just 1 minute away from plaza del sol centre of madrid,main job in there is prostitution..well that is what they offer so i guess the ones coming here in britain are low level i guess.there will always be like this, only if the police will do more about it, i guess this issue will always be here, it might go down a bit if there will be less russians, polish and all the slavic language speackes coming into this country, romanians are different, only romanian gypsies are into this sort of slaves -women and kids, as they think is cool to be a pimp and have everybody under control and do what you are told otherwise a knife will be thrown in their faces..:) i know all these and more and got loads of oppinions, i might be considered a racist when it comes to slavic language speakers but i just don't like them anymore, they are just making fun and take advantage of everything in uk, most of then didn't go to school, they are not educated, this is really odd.well as i said i might be taken as racist but well, it don't matter. i know what is really happening in here i can live with it as it doesn't affect me directly, so regarding the rest of croydoners well is funny how life is changed now.i hope i will be a police officer in the next future, i know is not the perfect job for a woman, but in my case, i think i will do well and is an appropiate job. life is funny and you have to enjoy yourself, as is been said look but don't touch, watch and have your say if you are disturbed, or just live with it.. if not try to do something and have fun.. i love life and i got 2 small kids, i definetly don't want to have any funny neighbours:))**** bless you all

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Brazen: A brothel was operating from a property 500m from Croydon Police Station Deadlinepix CR19021 Brazen: A brothel was operating from a property 500m from Croydon Police Station Deadlinepix CR19021

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