terry wrote:
please dont take us for idiots ive lived in croydon for 46 yrs and the place is rapidly going downhill the senior coppers and council leaders probably all live in the leafy part of croydon or outside the borough

ANNE GILES wrote:
As usual, the negative comments from people who should know better. Supt. Adrian Roberts works extremely hard - it's a wonder he even has time to breathe, eat or sleep. When police state that crime rates have fallen, they are right. They mean OVERALL crime rates. Knife crime has gone up, but it is a nationwide thing and is being tackled. Wednesday's incident was a one-off. People forget the past. Years ago there were riots in Thornton Heath - I remember it well. What happened on Wednesday was an unruly mob, not a riot. When a few years ago a bunch of football hooligans started wrecking the place, they went to prison, and their lovely mothers started complaining that they were "just having fun" and shouldn't have been locked up. Police can never win. I report everything I see, wherever I am and police deal with it. A boy who vandalised my car on 24th May was arrested and on 1st July went to Court and was fined, with costs. Done and dusted. If people don't report things, police cannot build up a picture of where different types of crime is happening. Once they know that a particular area is targeted, they send more police there. It is vital that everyone reports crime when it happens. If you don't report it, nothing gets done.

ANNE GILES wrote:
George - please stay in Scotland. Your racist comments are certainly not wanted here in Croydon. Carry on eating your haggis, please. Kes - your comment: \"Does it not occur to you that we do not believe \'official\' figures anymore?\" why are you using the word \"we\", when you should be using \"I\". You can\'t assume that everyone on this planet agrees with you. Most of us do believe the figures.

ANNE GILES wrote:
Bob Peel - please don't criticise Adrian - he is a lovely bloke. I'll give you a kiss if you promise to stop.

Jock wrote:

ANNE GILES wrote: George - please stay in Scotland. Your racist comments are certainly not wanted here in Croydon. Carry on eating your haggis, please. Kes - your comment: \"Does it not occur to you that we do not believe \'official\' figures anymore?\" why are you using the word \"we\", when you should be using \"I\". You can\'t assume that everyone on this planet agrees with you. Most of us do believe the figures.

Amazing...You call George racist, and then you yourself make an inflammatory remark about my countrymen and the eating haggis. Anyway, I'm sure George would much rather stay in Scotland, than live in the cesspit of Croydon. The police themselves said all those involved were black, so I don't quite see how George is racist.

When I first read this story this morning, there were 32 comments, then it went down to 30, now there are 20. Have they got mice at the Guardian?

anon wrote:

Jock wrote:

ANNE GILES wrote: George - please stay in Scotland. Your racist comments are certainly not wanted here in Croydon. Carry on eating your haggis, please. Kes - your comment: \"Does it not occur to you that we do not believe \'official\' figures anymore?\" why are you using the word \"we\", when you should be using \"I\". You can\'t assume that everyone on this planet agrees with you. Most of us do believe the figures.

Amazing...You call George racist, and then you yourself make an inflammatory remark about my countrymen and the eating haggis. Anyway, I'm sure George would much rather stay in Scotland, than live in the cesspit of Croydon. The police themselves said all those involved were black, so I don't quite see how George is racist.

read this then!

Jock wrote:

ANNE GILES wrote:
Bob Peel - please don\'t criticise Adrian - he is a lovely bloke. I\'ll give you a kiss if you promise to stop.

Keep going, Bob! Keep going!!

Mike wrote:
Two policemen wrestling on the ground with a 15-year-old girl who did nothing more than drop a piece of paper? In normal circumstances those people who came to the girl’s aid would be called \"have-a-go-heroes\". But just because the attackers were wearing police uniforms, that makes a difference? Why?

I pay my taxes so that the police can wrestle with muggers, rapists and burglars, not 15-year-old girls just for dropping litter. This was a gross overreaction by the police and those thugs responsible should be dismissed.

ANNE GILES wrote:
Mike - I would hate to walk through your front door, having to step over bits of paper, rubbish, etc. Is that really what it's like in Birmingham? No bins - just litter all over the streets? Not that we are ever likely to visit Birmingham. Can't understand the language.

Bob Peel wrote:
Crime down in Croydon? To tell the truth I've just seen another flight of pigs. Supt. Adrian Roberts must think we're all stupid to believe his nonsense. Supt. Adrian Roberts, your statement is LOB. I';ll bet the Council Chief Executive doesn't even live in Croydon - who would on his salary; come to think of it who wants to now on any salary!

Mike wrote:
Two policemen wrestling on the ground with a 15-year-old girl who did nothing more than drop a piece of paper? In normal circumstances those people who came to the girl’s aid would be called "have-a-go-heroes". But just because the attackers were wearing police uniforms, that makes a difference? Why? I pay my taxes so that the police can wrestle with muggers, rapists and burglars, not 15-year-old girls just for dropping litter. This was a gross overreaction by the police and those thugs responsible should be dismissed.

Mike wrote:
Scoffer, I didn’t say that dropping litter wasn’t wrong - which of course it is - but that the police overreacted. That kind of reaction should be reserved for subduing violent and dangerous criminals, not schoolgirls who drop litter. The police in this country are out of control because they have been given far too much power. They have become drunk on that power and it is now time to reign them in and to remind them that they are the public’s servants, not their masters.

ANNE GILES wrote:
If they had done that, the girl would have won. You have obviously not experienced bad policing. When I was mugged in Argentina, police told me there was no need to go to court, as they would hose him down and beat him up. They then came to see me to tell me I owed them a favour. At the age of 13 my father found a sick cat in our front garden and he paid the local bobby to come and "deal" with it. I then had to stand and watch while it had its brains bashed to pieces. Don't call English police bad. They are not.

Sarah Louise wrote:

ANNE GILES wrote: If they had done that, the girl would have won. You have obviously not experienced bad policing. When I was mugged in Argentina, police told me there was no need to go to court, as they would hose him down and beat him up. They then came to see me to tell me I owed them a favour. At the age of 13 my father found a sick cat in our front garden and he paid the local bobby to come and "deal" with it. I then had to stand and watch while it had its brains bashed to pieces. Don't call English police bad. They are not.

the woman is truely MENTAL...she obviously loves to see her name on here , why else would she write such drivel who cares about her in Argie LOL not us!! Anne stick to your day job you poor sole!

Mike wrote:
Disrespectful to the police, Trasie? So do you think respect should be automatic? I certainly don’t; I think it should be earned, and the British police seldom even come close to earning it. Public confidence in the police is at an all time low in this country, and there is a reason for that. Yes, they are very good at catching people driving marginally over the speed limit, and arresting pensioners for \"terrorism\" when all the pensioner really did was heckle a politician (remember Walter Wolfgang?), arresting a young woman just for paying tribute to fallen soldiers in Iraq by reading out their names (Maya Evans), summoning up no fewer than 78 officers just to remove a single harmless protester (Brian Haw) at a cost to the taxpayer of £28,000, then lying by claiming it was only £7,000, murdering a young Brazilian then lying about him vaulting over a ticket barrier and wearing a padded jacket, and finally altering their own police logs to cover up their crimes, and of course bravely tackling young schoolgirls. But when it comes to catching real criminals, their record in recent years is a national disgrace. Violent crime is out of control in this country and we need a return to real policing if we are going to defeat it. But that can only be achieved with real police officers, and they are almost an extinct species, as the incident in Croydon illustrates.

Mike wrote:
Disrespectful to the police, Trasie? So do you think respect should be automatic? I certainly don’t; I think it should be earned, and the British police seldom even come close to earning it. Public confidence in the police is at an all time low in this country, and there is a reason for that. Yes, they are very good at catching people driving marginally over the speed limit, and arresting pensioners for "terrorism" when all the pensioner really did was heckle a politician (remember Walter Wolfgang?), arresting a young woman just for paying tribute to fallen soldiers in Iraq by reading out their names (Maya Evans), summoning up no fewer than 78 officers just to remove a single harmless protester (Brian Haw) at a cost to the taxpayer of £28,000, then lying by claiming it was only £7,000, murdering a young Brazilian then lying about him vaulting over a ticket barrier and wearing a padded jacket, and finally altering their own police logs to cover up their crimes, and of course bravely tackling young schoolgirls. But when it comes to catching real criminals, their record in recent years is a national disgrace. Violent crime is out of control in this country and we need a return to real policing if we are going to defeat it. But that can only be achieved with real police officers, and they are almost an extinct species, as the incident in Croydon illustrates.

Mike wrote:
Scoffer, I'll tell you what the police should have done. They should have shamed the young girl by picking up her litter for her and putting it in a waste bin. That would have cost them nothing, solved the problem of the litter, given the girl something to think about, earned the respect of the community, and avoided the riot. But they didn't do that because their egos wouldn't allow it. They had to make a show of their power and authority.

haaa wrote:
oh you are all so lovely! thats all anne says but we all know she only being sarcastic..dont give up your day job love you aint gonna make it as a journalist haa haa!!!

A place where, a supermarket cashier told me, three out of four customers don't even speak our language.

Croyboy wrote:
"tom" wrote of Croydon

A place where, a supermarket cashier told me, three out of four customers don't even speak our language.

Hey, that's called diversity tom, and it's a Very Good Thing for our country - or so I'm told. Why, only the other other day there was a festival in central London to celebrate said "diversity". ...Only trouble is I've never met an English person who actually wants it!

ANNE GILES wrote:
Yet loads of English people attend and thoroughly enjoy themselves. We went last year and had a great time. Good music and we ended up in a marquee playing dominoes with a group of lovely Afro-Caribbean gentlemen.

FRANCESCA BLEAUFONTAIN MOPOTHER III wrote:
ANNE GILES wrote:Yet loads of English people attend and thoroughly enjoy themselves. We went last year and had a great time. Good music and we ended up in a marquee playing dominoes with a group of lovely Afro-Caribbean gentlemen.And I´ll SCWEAM and SCWEAM and SCWEAM until I´m sick.