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Croydon's brothels to be named and shamed

8:00pm Tuesday 30th September 2008

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Anti-sex trafficking campaigners plan to name and shame men who use brothels.

Croydon Community Against Trafficking (CCAT) are considering taking photographs of men who visit brothels and put them on the internet in an attempt to stamp out the sex industry in the town.

A spokesman for CCAT said the demand for the sex industry in Croydon was directly fuelling the supply of trafficked women. He said they were going to target punters visiting brothels to reduce the demand for sexual services.

He said: “We are going to hit this hard until those guys zip up their trousers, stop thinking between their legs and start thinking with their heads.

“We have thought about standing outside known brothels and taking pictures of car number plates and the men that visit and putting them up on a website like isthis-yourhusband.com.”

One of CCAT’s main aims is to stop local newspapers carrying adult advertisements. Over 40 per cent of men access off-street prostitutes through the local media.

The Croydon Guardian, and publisher Newsquest’s 305 titles nationwide banned adult advertisements in July. CCAT said it is putting pressure on other local newspapers to follow our example.

A report entitled Sex in the City released in August 2004 identified Croydon as having one of the largest sex industries in London. It is one of the towns where trafficked women are sent in significant numbers.

These women and girls are lured from their homes with the promise of a better life. Once in the UK many are kept as prisoners in their brothels and are exposed to intimidation and physical violence that often includes rape. “The people that traffic them see them not as women and human beings, but as an object to exploit time and again,” said CCAT spokesman.

The profile of the average punter is someone in their mid-30s who is married with children and has a mortgage. UK figures show that 1 in 10 men will pay for sex.

A spokesman said: “Men fear getting caught more than they fear contracting an STD or worrying about whether or not the women they are visiting are trafficked.”

He added that if men were unable to access sex adverts in local newspapers, accessing brothels online through their work and home computers would become more risky for them.

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ANNE GILES, SELSDON says...
9:19pm Tue 30 Sep 08

This is the best story ever. Congratulations, Guardian, for the story and congratulations to CCAT for the work they are doing. Only a "weasel" of an editor with a sleazy mind would continue to run this type of ad. Men who exploit women in this way are nothing but slithery, slimey, slippery little toads. They certainly don't deserve to have wives or families. If frustrated women can and do use vibrators, why do some of these men think it's OK to pay for flesh? There are other things they can do without hurting innocent, trafficked women. I hope these men are named and shamed as well as being booted out by their long-suffering wives.

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ric, kingston says...
8:33am Wed 1 Oct 08

dam, gonna have to get the old fake nose and moustashe out i think.

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squired, South Croydon says...
1:55pm Wed 1 Oct 08

Having lived next door to a brothel in Croydon a few years ago, I can tell you that business was good. There was a constant flow of customers all day and evening, especially in the early evening. Back then I found a price list that a "customer" had dropped, detailing over a dozen different brothels in Croydon. I told the police and found out a few months later that the list I'd handed in had never even been recorded....!

As for guys using these services, I'd never even consider it, but pretty much every guy I know has at least once. The only difference is that many see it as fine to do on holiday, but would probably not do it in the UK. Having said that, I also often hear guys comparing dating to visiting brothels. They say that the option of having to go on multiple dates with no guarantee of anything other than having to pay for the dates and being expected to impress the girl isn't of interest when they can go to a brothel, hand over some cash, and get exactly what they want. So, in a sense, it is partly society's fault that this sort of thing is going on?

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trasie, mitcham says...
1:55pm Wed 1 Oct 08

The authoritiies could always legalise it. At least that way the authorities could monitor it properly. The ladies involved would have proper medical assistance. The men involved would have a clean environment to go to if they must. Let's face it this is the oldest business in the world, it's not going away anytime soon.

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ANNE GILES, SELSDON says...
6:36pm Wed 1 Oct 08

Let us not forget that the girls we are talking about here are trafficked and have no choice about what is happening to them. I find it incredible that one of you thinks that men don't really enjoy the company of women to dine with and talk to. What kind of mentality is that? Certainly extremely insulting to women, anyway. A woman is not just a "hole". A woman had a brain, sense of humour, interesting conversation, etc. etc. Get real, please!! If all you need is a hole, get an electric drill and drill one in your bedroom wall. It won't cost you anything.

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punterpride, bury says...
12:35am Thu 2 Oct 08

this religious group needs to get its own act in order before preaching ie the many priests,vicars,rever
ends who are abusing children,what about this week-child **** and sex abuse by those within the religious industry,

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rpriest, says...
7:32am Thu 2 Oct 08

These claims that the women are trafficked are totally unfounded, the huge majority of women in the sex industry are doing it quite happily of their own free will.

If it's so easy to spot brothels employing trafficked women why aren't the police raiding them and shutting them down? The reason is the hype over trafficking is just that, hype and hot hair.

The only reason there are some abuses in the industry are due to the way it's driven underground by cack-handed legislation, legalise and regulate brothels and the you'll cure most of those problems and everyone will be happy, except the raving mad puritans who get their jollies stopping others having fun.

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ANNE GILES, SELSDON says...
9:08am Thu 2 Oct 08

comment_6870274_full wrote:
These claims that the women are trafficked are totally unfounded, the huge majority of women in the sex industry are doing it quite happily of their own free will.If it's so easy to spot brothels employing trafficked women why aren't the police raiding them and shutting them down? The reason is the hype over trafficking is just that, hype and hot hair.The only reason there are some abuses in the industry are due to the way it's driven underground by cack-handed legislation, legalise and regulate brothels and the you'll cure most of those problems and everyone will be happy, except the raving mad puritans who get their jollies stopping others having fun.
This has nothing to do with religion. Police have been involved with this. I have been at the meeting where this was discussed. Having fun by using women as pieces of meat is not fun - it is abuse.

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squired, South Croydon says...
10:27am Thu 2 Oct 08

Anne. I'm sorry to tell you, but many young men aren't interested in getting into relationships. They see them as a financial burden. Sadly, many young English women have no fiscal sense whatsoever, so seem to just be looking for a guy to pay for everything. They are also incapable of initiating anything and rely on the man to make almost every decision. The men, to put it bluntly, are simply looking to get laid. I'm not saying I agree with it, but simply that it is a fact.

What many women seem to forget is that men and women think differently. For women sex is an emotional thing, but for men that is not the case. Any woman who wants to get sex can do so very easily. In a sense she just has to "turn up" and will recieve offers wherever she goes. The guy has to make the effort. He has to initiate conversations with women, buy them drinks (if he's stupid), etc. Or, he simply goes to a brothel and gets to the end game immediately.

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ANNE GILES, SELSDON says...
10:50am Thu 2 Oct 08

I understand what you are saying, but you are generalising. Women need sex as much as men do, but men think they don't. However, for most women the emotional side comes first. I have never met women with no fiscal sense. Professional women are happy to pay for things and most of the single ones I know have their own homes, cars, and everything else. There are women who don't initiate anything, but I don't live in that world. Whenever we go on holiday, I do all the research, ask my husband if he is happy to go there, and then book it. He does nothing, except carry the luggage and get on the plane. I look after the passports and all the money. I look after the money at home, the bank statements, my mother's money, bills and bank statements, and income from abroad for my nephew, brother and sister. I look after our insurance policies, all bills, repairs, etc. As far as brothels are concerned, every man I speak to is absolutely horrified at the idea of paying for treating someone like a piece of flesh. And don't forget, there are women who choose to work as prostitues, but these mentioned above are trafficked women, forced to work from 8 a.m. till 2 a.m., servicing 30/40 men a day. They can't escape, as their passports have been confiscated. This is why police and CCAT are trying to help them.

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scoffer, Beckenham says...
11:49am Thu 2 Oct 08

What a load of old tosh!! stop all this bullshine about the women who are trafficked!! standing outside brothels and reporting the 'punters' is the easy, cop out, thing to do... that won't stop illegal immigration into the UK... it's the oldest proffesion in the world and it will never stop!! men will always look for and old Tom in Croydon for a bit of fun!!

The problem is politicians!! they have allowed untold illegal immigration into the UK... It's no use just picking at the bits that you find objectionable in Croydon!! Get real!!

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ANNE GILES, SELSDON says...
11:59am Thu 2 Oct 08

scoffer, I thought you were a nice bloke - please don't disappoint me. I shall become rather sad. :(
I have met the people who run CCAT and I have attended the CCPCG meeting where it was discussed. Young women are promised good jobs when they come here, and then find themselves being locked up and exploited. If men want a bit of fun, I am sure Ann Summers do a good line in plastic blow-up dolls.You then only have to fork out once and you are not abusing any unfortunate women.

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squired, South Croydon says...
12:02pm Thu 2 Oct 08

Anne. I know many guys who go to brothels, albeit in countries other than the uk. This includes doctors, policemen, and senior management in large companies.

I believe Anne that you are originally from outside the UK. I can promise you that most young women in the UK have no clue about money. Its fine talking about professional women, but that is a small part of the UK female population.

Almost every guy I know in a long term relationship has had to bail out his girlfriend/wife from her debts. I can also promise you that a large number of women still expect men to pay for dates. Its the old story of wanting equality, but only the good parts of equality. Women want it where it suits them, but still want to be paid for, be the one that is asked out, etc. Men are getting bored of that! As I say, that is why many are completely avoiding English women now.

Regarding trafficing, let me tell you about the brothel I lived next to. It had 2 or 3 girls at any time. It was clearly organised as the girls were swapped every few weeks. All the girls were Eastern European. The madame turned up at about 8:30 in the morning and left at about 8:00 in the evening. There was a constant flow of men all day. Outside of those hours the girls seemed to do what they wanted. I even remember seeing them on the pull in a local nightclub one night. As I said, I told the police, but it was never even recorded. In fact they were obviously informed about and we were quite scared for a few months after about the consequences.

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scoffer, Beckenham says...
12:42pm Thu 2 Oct 08

Anne... you are not addressing the problem are you ?? men and women are smuggled into this country to pick runner beans, cabbages, turnips, etc and the pretty young girls are pushed into prostitution and the younger men usually end up washing dishes employed by people from their own country - politicians have allowed this to happen - you screaming from the rooftops that prostitution is wrong (and it is!!) are just skirting around the problem that YOU find obscene... prostitition is NOT the only form of exploitation that is happening - when you pick up your shopping this week, remember all those poor exploited illegal immigrants sitting in freezing warehouses in the UK who've picked and packed half the stuff for the big supermarkets that we ALL eat!!

Cherry-picking the prostitution side to this subject is just a joke... STOP the illegal immigrants from coming here... stop big supermarkets from using sub contracted companies who use illegal immigrants/black market labour.

If you think this Government is serious about this issue(illegal immigration) you should watch a programe about the UK border agency on Sky... people are stopped, questioned, arrested, then released until the Home office decide what to do... in the meantime 95% dissapear!!

No one is doing a single thing about it - so please don't think standing outside brothels will stop the flow of trafficked women - they will just move somewhere else... let's hope it's not Selsdon!!

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ANNE GILES, SELSDON says...
1:30pm Thu 2 Oct 08

Oh, dear, you are getting annoyed. I do agree with you about supermarkets and other organisations exploiting people. Everything is about profit, profit, profit. This is why I refuse to buy the clothes which have been produced in countries like India, using child labour. Also - I won't deal with companies who have call centres in countries where they can employ staff cheaply and make more profit for themselves.

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NastyMrTom, Croydon says...
1:30pm Thu 2 Oct 08

Surely the main objective here is to directly address the plight of these trafficked women. If when they're approached they aren't trafficked as has been suggested then I'm pretty sure they'll point this out. To wrap this issue up with that of the country's immigration controls is to do a huge disservice to women that face daily rape and abuse and sorely need our help. The morality of prostitution itself and the current attitude of the British woman towards money has got nothing to do with it. It's a very sad reflection on us ALL in Croydon that we've allowed this to happen

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NastyMrTom, Croydon says...
1:30pm Thu 2 Oct 08

Surely the main objective here is to directly address the plight of these trafficked women. If when they're approached they aren't trafficked as has been suggested then I'm pretty sure they'll point this out. To wrap this issue up with that of the country's immigration controls is to do a huge disservice to women that face daily rape and abuse and sorely need our help. The morality of prostitution itself and the current attitude of the British woman towards money has got nothing to do with it. It's a very sad reflection on us ALL in Croydon that we've allowed this to happen

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ANNE GILES, SELSDON says...
1:32pm Thu 2 Oct 08

NastyMrTom wrote:
Surely the main objective here is to directly address the plight of these trafficked women. If when they're approached they aren't trafficked as has been suggested then I'm pretty sure they'll point this out. To wrap this issue up with that of the country's immigration controls is to do a huge disservice to women that face daily rape and abuse and sorely need our help. The morality of prostitution itself and the current attitude of the British woman towards money has got nothing to do with it. It's a very sad reflection on us ALL in Croydon that we've allowed this to happen
Agreed.

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scoffer, Beckenham says...
2:19pm Thu 2 Oct 08

Sorry Anne... i'm not getting 'annoyed'... just pointing out a couple of issues other than prostitution with illegal immigrunts. Anyway, back to work!!

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scoffer, Beckenham says...
2:31pm Thu 2 Oct 08

I knew a couple of old Toms in Croydon... they were very nice and positive - and very good too!!

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NastyMrTom, Croydon says...
5:10pm Thu 2 Oct 08

scoffer wrote:
I knew a couple of old Toms in Croydon... they were very nice and positive - and very good too!!

I'm sure they felt the same about your money.

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scoffer, Beckenham says...
6:08pm Thu 2 Oct 08

Oh yes... you pay for what you get in this world - you ought to try it... it may even cheer you up!!rofl!!

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punterpride, bury says...
6:24pm Thu 2 Oct 08

dear ann
if rich people paid their fair share of tax,the govt could afford to pay every woman £1000 weekly to stop selling sex-everyones happy!

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punterpride, bury says...
6:35pm Thu 2 Oct 08

dear ann
most "trafficked" women are in fact migrant sex workers albeit illegal who voluntarily come to uk to be sex workers.
there is a lot of lies,disinformation and propaganda re so called "sex trafficking" how many people have been convicted of forcing women into prostitution? bet its nowhere the amount of paedophile priests convicted of child abuse which happens on a regular basis. the religious industry is full of paedophiles. what is the church doing about it?

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scoffer, Beckenham says...
9:52am Fri 3 Oct 08

I agree... most of these women are arriving to provide a service in the sex industry in the UK - we all know that's what MOST of these women knew they were going to be doing - NOT coming over here to work in offices!! their contracts of employment are not very good... and for this reason alone the Government should wage war against ALL illegal immigrants - and traffickers - none of them are wanted!! for those who spout on here the 'poor trafficked women' go and open your doors and give just one of them a safe home under your roof!! put up or shut up!!

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NastyMrTom, Croydon says...
11:18am Fri 3 Oct 08

scoffer wrote:
Oh yes... you pay for what you get in this world - you ought to try it... it may even cheer you up!!rofl!!

I don't think being so pathetic that I have to pay for physical affection would ever cheer me up ... what a shame that your own standards are so low

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NastyMrTom, Croydon says...
1:19pm Fri 3 Oct 08

punterpride wrote:
dear ann most in whose interest is it to lie and spread propaganda about these women ?

Do you have any evidence or fact to back up your claim that they're volunteers ?

Lastly ... how does the church's problem with pederasts have any bearing on this issue ?



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NastyMrTom, Croydon says...
1:35pm Fri 3 Oct 08

I'll try that again

in whose interest is it to lie and spread propaganda about these women ?

Do you have any evidence or fact to back up your claim that they're volunteers ?

Lastly ... how does the church's problem with pederasts have any bearing on this issue ?



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scoffer, Beckenham says...
3:13pm Fri 3 Oct 08

Nasty old Ms.Tom... I don't care what you or anyone else thinks... to be frank...you sound highly frustrated!!

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ANNE GILES, SELSDON says...
3:16pm Fri 3 Oct 08

Thank you, Mr. Tom. I think the fact is that men who want prostitutes are going to carry on trying to convince themselves that these poor women have come here voluntarily to provide sex. It's the only way to stop themselves from feeling guilty. Being forced to service 30/40 men a day is exhausting and thoroughly demoralising. Being raped makes oe feel dirty. I simply cannot imagine what it must be like to be raped 30/40 times a day, to suffer constant abuse, to have to do unpleasant and degrading things to men who just happen to be kinky and who don't just want straight sex, to be forced to have sex without condoms and to know that one has to carry on doing this day and in and day out, just because some men enjoy hurting and humiliating women.

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scoffer, Beckenham says...
3:31pm Fri 3 Oct 08

Anne, why is prostitution called the oldest proffesion in the world ? because it is... nothing you say will change that... if they slung out all these women who are trafficked into prostitution do you think that would be the end of this problem ? of course not!! other women would still be around as they were before these women arrived here... you appear to have your finger on the pulse of what happens in and around Croydon ? what do you think ordinary prostitutes would say to you if you attempted to 'educate' them against the so called 'filthy' men who use prostitutes ? you know the answer... so do I. Attacking men is easy - but it will not solve anything.

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NastyMrTom, Croydon says...
4:48pm Fri 3 Oct 08

a wrong committed throughout history is still a wrong. To justify the pitiful plight of some women with the term 'profession' is another way of spinning this for the benefit of those men who take advantage. No woman works hard and studies towards this 'profession' they're drawn in by circumstances they generally have no control over and are forced to take a decision that will negatively effect them for life. It's a dangerous and degrading existence and every time a man uses a prostitute he allows this to carry on. To give the impression that once removed from the streets there'd be a queue of willing women to take their place is a disgrace. That simply means that more poor individuals are vulnerable and at risk. You're not doing them a favour by using their services you're taking pleasure from another person's misery

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NastyMrTom, Croydon says...
4:53pm Fri 3 Oct 08

scoffer wrote:
Nasty old Ms.Tom... I don't care what you or anyone else thinks... to be frank...you sound highly frustrated!!

is that because I've pointed out what a low life you are .... it's not been a surprise we all already knew


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scoffer, Beckenham says...
6:55pm Fri 3 Oct 08

Old Tom... we all have different views on here when a news thread is put on line by the CG... my view maybe different to your view... you don't have to start saying negative things... try be positive schmegeggie!!

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NastyMrTom, Croydon says...
8:15pm Fri 3 Oct 08

How can you be positive about the abuse and exploitation of young women happening under over very noses.
I for one am ashamed by this and would like to know how despite being openly advertised and frequesnted these brothels are seemingly allowed to operate by the police. If someone could shed some light on this I'd be very grateful

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punterpride, bury says...
8:18pm Fri 3 Oct 08

the low life are the paedophile priests,vicars and reverends who preach morality and then abuse children,the religious industry condemns prostitutes,have they forgotten that jesus was married to one? mary magdalene, and how did he meet her? did he pay to have sex with her?
as ive pointed out there is a lot of propaganda re so called "sex trafficking" little proof from those religious fanatics on here, they should be gatting rid of all the paedophiles in the religious industry rather than stopping consenting paid sex

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ANNE GILES, SELSDON says...
9:38pm Fri 3 Oct 08

scoffer wrote:
Anne, why is prostitution called the oldest proffesion in the world ? because it is... nothing you say will change that... if they slung out all these women who are trafficked into prostitution do you think that would be the end of this problem ? of course not!! other women would still be around as they were before these women arrived here... you appear to have your finger on the pulse of what happens in and around Croydon ? what do you think ordinary prostitutes would say to you if you attempted to 'educate' them against the so called 'filthy' men who use prostitutes ? you know the answer... so do I. Attacking men is easy - but it will not solve anything.
Hi scoffer, yes I do have my finger on the pulse. I attend the CCPCG meetings which are attended by their members, councillors, senior police officers and the CCAT people, who gave a talk at one of the meetings. Please feel free to attend and to ask questions.

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punterpride, bury says...
9:51pm Fri 3 Oct 08

if i were to attend a meeting, could i ask the question: why are paedophile priests,vicars & reverends being allowed to abuse children in the religious industry?

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scoffer, Beckenham says...
10:40pm Fri 3 Oct 08

Old Mrs Tom... I told you before... I let a lot of things go over my head... I read, I digest, I move on... I know the solutions to many problems cannot be found on these forums... it's all jaw-jaw... try not these issues dominate your life-cheers!!

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scoffer, Beckenham says...
10:47pm Fri 3 Oct 08

Anne... i'm not interested into listening to waffle... I'd fall asleep after two minutes!! Please do go and enjoy yourself though... we need community leaders like you Anne - at least you are on the ball - and hands on so to speak!! even if sometimes you are over passionate in what believe in.

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punterpride, bury says...
11:01pm Fri 3 Oct 08

perhaps there should be "punters against paedophile priests,vicars & reverends" taking photos of those men of the cloth who abuse children and putting them on a website with the message: did these men of the cloth abuse you?

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Brian Sewer, Tarring W.Sussex says...
9:21am Sat 4 Oct 08

Dont forget the police,the soham missing kids enquiries leading cop was downloading kiddy pedo stuff,anyway i thought this was about prozzies?

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punterpride, bury says...
10:10am Sat 4 Oct 08

thanks brian for reminding us that the police have paedophiles amongst them also,there were 50 police nationwide who were caught up in operation ore(child **** investigation)
as jesus once said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone"

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ANNE GILES, SELSDON says...
12:46pm Sat 4 Oct 08

scoffer wrote:
Anne... i'm not interested into listening to waffle... I'd fall asleep after two minutes!! Please do go and enjoy yourself though... we need community leaders like you Anne - at least you are on the ball - and hands on so to speak!! even if sometimes you are over passionate in what believe in.
Thanks, scoffer. I am just passionate (it's the Latin American streak).

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punterpride, bury says...
3:54pm Sat 4 Oct 08

i too am passionate about the sex abuse carried out by paedophile priests,perhaps its the italian streak

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ANNE GILES, SELSDON says...
10:37pm Sat 4 Oct 08

Are you Italian? Per favore, linguini con fromaggio. Molto bene, signore.

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ANNE GILES, SELSDON says...
10:38pm Sat 4 Oct 08

Oops, I forgot. Ciao!

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ANNE GILES, SELSDON says...
10:39pm Sat 4 Oct 08

By the way, we have booked a week in Sorrento - really looking forward to it.

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punterpride, bury says...
12:56am Sun 5 Oct 08

you really should say buona sera considering what time it is,by the way most people in italy polled say prostitution should be legalised to get it off the street,women wait by the road to be picked up in naples,as ive seen myself (brothels are banned)i can't get you linguini with cheese as italian shut buonna sera!

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ANNE GILES, SELSDON says...
10:38pm Sun 5 Oct 08

What a shame. I was quite hungry. Is it buonana notte now?? I am off to bed, absolutely shattered, as I had to hold a man who was trying to throw himself off a bridge on to the M23 this afternoon. His wife was trying to hug him while his two little boys sat in his car watching helplessly and others just stopped and stared. I still can't believe it. At least, we got him back on to the bridge again.

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Arborbridge, Croydon says...
10:55pm Sun 5 Oct 08

I've read the contributions so far which seem in some cases to be so extreme and colourful, that the Shakespearean phrase about protesting too much come to mind. Whilst I agree (who wouldn't) that the evil of sex slavery, trafficing rape, etc should be stamped out, it seems to me that a whole dimension of this debate is missing. Prostitution comes in many guises (some even include marriage - did you see Tess of the D'Urbevilles?) and to condemn all men and women involved is just wrong and muddle headed. There are "decent" intelligent middle class women who prefer to earn their living this way, and they have "decent" men who visit them who are not sleaze bags and slime balls! There have been frendships built around paid sex which have be on going for months or years, free entered into. I do not to believe this is abusive, immoral or should be in any way made illegal. Moral or religious pressure groups cannot be allowed to curtail what many in society now regard as an acceptable activity.
I'd be very happy to enter a sensible debate about this, but I fear that from what I've read here so far, that would be very difficult. This is a subject which needs objectivity and flexibility to be able consider all points of view.
By all means, nail the sex slave trade, but consider also the impact on the women who enjoy doing this sometimes as an fillip to another career less well paid in one of the other caring professions. If these ordinary British women in prostitution need anything, it's not vilification but help with developing an exit strategy, for that is their biggest problem.

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ANNE GILES, SELSDON says...
9:40am Mon 6 Oct 08

I agree with you, but we are not talking about the women who earn money this way when they want to. Here in Croydon there are trafficked women who do need rescuing.

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Arborbridge, Croydon says...
8:30pm Mon 6 Oct 08

Anne - Yes we are totally together on this as regards trying to help trafficked women (and my desire to help women exit "the game"). I just feel that hard cases make bad law. What I mean by that is that by trying to solve the extreme problems we destroy other activities which, although reprehensible to some, are relatively acceptable. Up to now, Croydon police have been tolerant of brothels which do not traffick women. Let's hope this new campaign doesn't force them to reconsider their policy. I just hate the news media going after the hyper stuff as though that is the only sort, and by implication branding all the others. You know, there is some real good being done through paid sex by and for ordinary people, and this is a story which is hardly ever told. "Decent" (if I can use that word!) prostitutes and their clients would be the first to want to curb sex slavery since they are interested in consentual sex between equals.
I had a thought about this pressure group taking photographs of men and posting them on a website (which I couldn't find): had they considered whether their action is morally acceptable in view of the possibility of marriage destruction?
I'm sure they would argue that the ends justify the means, but that has always been the cry of extremists down the years.

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ANNE GILES, SELSDON says...
10:01pm Mon 6 Oct 08

Interesting thought.

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Bob Peel, Croydon says...
1:36pm Thu 9 Oct 08

"....had they considered whether their action is morally acceptable in view of the possibility of marriage destruction?"

Took my fire, Arborbridge.

Not all Brasses are forced to work as they do and would be about as welcoming to the attention of the CCAT as most are towards Jehovas Witnesses

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ANNE GILES, SELSDON says...
4:01pm Thu 9 Oct 08

I wonder how the men would feel if someone told them that, while they are out at work and visiting prostitutes, their wives have dozens of lovers visiting their homes??? Nice thought.

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Bob Peel, Croydon says...
3:39pm Fri 10 Oct 08

ANNE GILES wrote:
I wonder how the men would feel if someone told them that, while they are out at work and visiting prostitutes, their wives have dozens of lovers visiting their homes??? Nice thought.
How would the husband feel if it turned out that whilst he was working to put a crust on the table his wife is willingly selling herself?

Both scenarios, as suggested by you and I, regularly happen.

There must be instances where the husband like sells himself too.

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scoffer, Beckenham says...
10:06am Wed 15 Oct 08

Boring. Please bury this thread now!!

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punterpride, bury says...
11:02pm Sat 20 Dec 08

jesus was crucified because he paid to have sex with mary magdalene and pontious pilate was swedish,
jesus would be outraged at the antics of ccat

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