BNP candidate's secret criminal past (From Croydon Guardian)
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Waddon byelection: BNP candidate Charlotte Lewis's secret criminal past
9:40am Wednesday 4th February 2009 in News Exclusive By Peter Truman
Charlotte Lewis harassed staff at the Huntington Life Sciences with letters
A candidate for the Waddon byelection sent death threats to a drugs company involved in animal testing.
Charlotte Lewis was jailed for six months in 2001 for her ongoing harassment of staff at the Huntington Life Sciences (HLS) centre in Cambridgeshire.
Miss Lewis, of Thornton Heath, is now standing as the British National party (BNP) in the Waddon byelection on February 12.
She appeared at Peterborough Crown Court on January 31, 2001 where she admitted four charges of harassment.
The 36-year-old was implicated in offensive mail sent to HLS staff when saliva on the envelopes matched her DNA.
The letters began “Dear Animal Abusing Scum” or “Dear Scum” and contained threats such as “If you don’t quit HLS then your life will not be worth living. You will always have to be looking over your shoulder”.
Miss Lewis also penned, “This is a warning. Your life is in grave danger if you don’t stop working at HLS ...
“You will find yourself having a gun aimed at your stupid ugly head.”
The court heard how Miss Lewis had not intended to carry out the threats and did not have “a violent bone in her body”.
But the victims of the threats were oblivious to this, with Charles Owen, a recipient of the mail, convinced the threats would be realised.
Jennifer Howlett, who had not worked at the centre for two years, said she was left “hysterical and very scared”.
And Mark and Julie Farrance, who received some 50 letters from animal rights activists, were also the targets of a late-night animal rights demonstration outside their home, with a brick thrown through their window.
They then received Miss Lewis’s letter which said: “I was there when a brick was put through your window. If you don’t quit HLS you can expect more of the same.”
Mrs Farrance feared for her family’s safety.
Sentencing Miss Lewis, Judge Richard Pollard said the six-month jail term would have been longer if she had not pleaded guilty and shown remorse.
He also issued a restraining order against Miss Lewis, a member of Stop Animal Rights Cruelty, banning her from harassing HLS staff.
It was revealed the BNP candidate had a history of psychological problems and suffers depression. The judge said the “chilling letters” had brought “fear and anguish to people going about their peaceful and lawful business”.
Miss Lewis told the Croydon Guardian this week that her time in jail, six weeks in total, was “utterly horrible” and she never wanted to spend another day in “that awful place”.
She said she got involved in animal rights in 1999 having been a vegetarian since she was 14. She said she began to read animal rights activist magazines.
She said: “I was not really involved in an extreme level, I just decided to write these letters. Unfortunately I was caught. I regret being caught.”
Last week the Croydon Guardian revealed how Miss Lewis had also had a brush with the law in 2006 when she was questioned over possible election fraud but was released without charge.
Comments(186)
I hope not
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12:26pm Thu 5 Feb 09
tramlinker
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12:27pm Thu 5 Feb 09
on are not put in prison.Why is it,that any tiny tiny impurity that just may occur within the ranks of the BNP make such headlines!Good luck to the lady in question,she has served her time and now wishes to serve her country in a decent British way.What there may be left of it to serve!
emsie
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12:45pm Thu 5 Feb 09
croyman
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12:55pm Thu 5 Feb 09
scoffer
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1:03pm Thu 5 Feb 09
NastyMrTom
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1:14pm Thu 5 Feb 09
scoffer, Beckenham says...
2:22pm Fri 23 Jan 09
Well done C.G. - A fair an honest local newspaper that allows balanced views to be aired!! (I didn't post on here for a number of hours hoping to see some Croydon people supporting the good C.G.? - But nothing - I suspect some people are just using this newspaper to post up their political views... Mmm)
barry mcsherry
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1:22pm Thu 5 Feb 09
barry mcsherry
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1:35pm Thu 5 Feb 09
Carly
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1:39pm Thu 5 Feb 09
Just a question, I'm not looking for an argument, I would just like to know as personally I don't have any ideas.
NastyMrTom
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1:54pm Thu 5 Feb 09
barry mcsherry wrote:
fair and honest local paper dont make me laugh ,how naive are you sheeple dont you know that all local papers in this country are owned by the same media corperations that own our national newspapers and as such follow the same marxist liberal agenda but disguise it so as to dupe you all into thinking they are independent and local news outlets how foolish can you be
those are the views of a BNP supporter , plank.
Do your lot trawl the earth for the stupidest amongst us or is it like moths to a flame ?
barry mcsherry
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2:18pm Thu 5 Feb 09
NastyMrTom
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3:04pm Thu 5 Feb 09
2) you've not proved any point. You're trying to explain that we don't have a free press when I was pointing out the differences between posts from the same person on here
Re-read the thread and try and understand what's being said before you go off on one. Christ what is it with the BNP on here talk about living up to a stereotype.
Brian Sewer
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3:25pm Thu 5 Feb 09
NastyMrTom wrote:See how he reacts scoffer when you mention someone was using the noodles candidates name?
Two-faced moron strikes again !! scoffer, Beckenham says... 2:22pm Fri 23 Jan 09 Well done C.G. - A fair an honest local newspaper that allows balanced views to be aired!! (I didn't post on here for a number of hours hoping to see some Croydon people supporting the good C.G.? - But nothing - I suspect some people are just using this newspaper to post up their political views... Mmm)
Looks like a guilt trip reaction to me and dont forget nastymrtom was the main person on here talking to the fake candidate all the time
The mark of an extremist id say hand on heart
NastyMrTom
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3:51pm Thu 5 Feb 09
The organ grinder's monkey does his little dance for us all to laugh at
croydonkid
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4:13pm Thu 5 Feb 09
barry mcsherry wrote:This is actually a massive lie. The reason why negative stories are written about the BNP is because they are bigotted idiots.
also are you not aware that under the national union of journalists rules no journalist or newspaper is allowed to write about the bnp in a positive way ,to do so would risk expulsion from the union and even the sack which is the reason the general public only ever hear negative stories concerning the party ,what does that say about our so called free society or our so called democracy ,we live in a dictatorship where we are allowed to vote in elections as long as you vote for the people that they deem acceptable the liblabcon have got it sown up its the same in america you can have democracy as long as you vote republican or democrat ,get real sheeple break the chains vote for something different you will find it liberating
Brian Sewer
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4:29pm Thu 5 Feb 09
NastyMrTom wrote:You been caught out fair and square and you dont like it
The organ grinder's monkey does his little dance for us all to laugh at
The far left at work and why dont you communist lot get a job i heard they need snow sweepers in croydon ha ha
Angry Taxpayer
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4:33pm Thu 5 Feb 09
croyman
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4:34pm Thu 5 Feb 09
NastyMrTom
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4:57pm Thu 5 Feb 09
Brian Sewer wrote:
NastyMrTom wrote: The organ grinder's monkey does his little dance for us all to laugh atYou been caught out fair and square and you dont like it The far left at work and why dont you communist lot get a job i heard they need snow sweepers in croydon ha ha
Dance Monkey !!
barry mcsherry
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5:00pm Thu 5 Feb 09
NastyMrTom
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5:02pm Thu 5 Feb 09
croyman wrote:Half of them won't mention the BNP.
Maybe journalists can't find anything positive to write about the BNP. I certainly can't think of anything. The people on here who support them seem to contradict one another on every turn. Trying to get any sense out of them is proving difficult. I'm glad Scoffer is going to watch what gets posted on here 'very very carefully'. Makes a change.
The other half that stand up for their beliefs are so embarrassing the
last lot disown them and make out it's 'the left' using their names.
It's the funniest mess I've seen in a long time. I've changed my mind please vote for these muppets the country needs a good laugh
NastyMrTom
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5:14pm Thu 5 Feb 09
barry mcsherry wrote:
are you sure in your red little world you are allowed to say the word monkey should it not be primate you would not like to be pulled up for using a racist term
well monkeys are are simian primates so 'primate' isn't really the correct term.
Angry Taxpayer
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5:21pm Thu 5 Feb 09
ANNE GILES
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5:22pm Thu 5 Feb 09
ANNE GILES
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5:23pm Thu 5 Feb 09
lilyjane
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5:25pm Thu 5 Feb 09
Please re-read your posts; nasty mr tom verbally dances rings around you and it is only your face that should be red.
You solely evidence the tie between the BNP and racism. Organ-grinders have monkeys- the small animal kind. Your mental conclusions are dated and unintelligent.
Carly- I too agree. Let's not wear fur and kick cats- but do we really feel that this woman is right to have terrorised workers? Not people gaining from what they are doing- simply being paid a wage. Whether we agree or not- we still can't attack, terrorise and brick these peoples windows.... other wise we'd all be out there brick in hand.
Or is that they way it should be Brian/ Barry/ Scoffer...?
Brian why is there only the far left and the far right in your political preaching’s? What do you study/ read to become mr. insurance??
And croyman- perfectly put.
NastyMrTom
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5:35pm Thu 5 Feb 09
Angry Taxpayer wrote:
Hey! NastyMrTom! HOW DARE YOU come on here and talk sense! Don't you know we, the lunatic fringe, are angry all the time. PERMANENTLY RAGING over anything that doesn't fit our world view-from feral youths to **** snow! And its all the governments fault! If a depressed jail bird is going to help topple the commies then I'm all for it!
Sorry , it's because my extremist views can't be controlled. I'm hell bent on disrupting forums and spreading Marxist bile. Thank God we have the BNP to explain my actions !!
scoffer
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7:26pm Thu 5 Feb 09
AccyDave
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8:55pm Thu 5 Feb 09
barry mcsherry
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9:10pm Thu 5 Feb 09
Charlotte L
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11:15pm Thu 5 Feb 09
Regarding animal experiments. A country where animal torture is legal is extreme, I am a moderate. These so-called scientists who practice vivisection could practice stem-cell research instead, but then that could lead to the elimination of diseases, which their pay-masters in the pharmaceutical industry do not want, as supplying drugs to sick people is extremely profitable.
Regarding immigration. Pursuing an open-door policy towards immigration, resulting in the indigenous population facing becoming an ethnic minority in their own land, is extreme. I am a moderate on this issue. I'm not being melodramatic - I'm sure a professor in demographics would back me up.
croyman
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9:21am Fri 6 Feb 09
I hope not
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9:58am Fri 6 Feb 09
You and your other little playmates have failed to win any debate on here, because when you lose, you resort to insults, yawning and stupid personal attacks to cover your own ignorance. Well some of us are a little more intelligent than that. The fact of the matter is that this person was convicted of a criminal offence and terrorised people. Why should a bully such as this be allowed to represent Waddon in addition to everything I have already said about her, this just is the icing on the cake. I think the residents of Waddon have a little more intelligence than to vote in a racist, bully convicted of a criminal offence, who shows pretty much disregard for anyone other than herself. So let's all wait and see shall we ?
barry mcsherry
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10:03am Fri 6 Feb 09
BODICA
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10:20am Fri 6 Feb 09
croyman
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10:23am Fri 6 Feb 09
croyman
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10:26am Fri 6 Feb 09
BODICA
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11:06am Fri 6 Feb 09
Charlotte L
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11:32am Fri 6 Feb 09
Stop having a go at Barry - he speaks the truth.
Touran
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11:47am Fri 6 Feb 09
croyman
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11:52am Fri 6 Feb 09
Bodica, if you think immigration is the biggest problem facing this country, you're wrong. There are far worse problems. But it's much easier to blame things on that, isn't it. As for saying God bless Charlotte, I don't think God is very pleased with her or anyone who thinks like her.
I hope not
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11:57am Fri 6 Feb 09
NastyMrTom
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12:12pm Fri 6 Feb 09
barry mcsherry wrote:
it does not baffle me if you are concerned with the welfare of animals then surely you would also be concerned about the systematic genocide of the white british race ,you only have to look at the british jobs for british workers strikes to realise the british work force is being steadily replaced by foreign labour ,its what the cancerous liberal left like to call enrichment ,but liberalism has had its day they have had a century of rule its time for change
genocide of the white British race ??
Over 85% of this country are 'white British'... this has to be the most unsuccessful genocide in history
Barry stick to handing out leaflets , you're an embarrassment
NastyMrTom
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12:31pm Fri 6 Feb 09
Charlotte L wrote:
I am the person whom this article is about, I'd photograph my passport & post it on here - but there isn't that facility. Regarding animal experiments. A country where animal torture is legal is extreme, I am a moderate. These so-called scientists who practice vivisection could practice stem-cell research instead, but then that could lead to the elimination of diseases, which their pay-masters in the pharmaceutical industry do not want, as supplying drugs to sick people is extremely profitable. Regarding immigration. Pursuing an open-door policy towards immigration, resulting in the indigenous population facing becoming an ethnic minority in their own land, is extreme. I am a moderate on this issue. I'm not being melodramatic - I'm sure a professor in demographics would back me up.
UK population Charlotte approx 60,000,000
85% are classed as 'white British'
10% are born overseas
Immigration numbers over the last 10 years approx 1,500,000
Now I'm no professor of demographics but I know total BS when I read it.
Like your previous statements about Muslim culture which you said were 'common knowledge' you seem to have some very strong views that are based on no fact whatsoever. You're going to get a rough ride if you don't do a bit of research for yourself
Councillor John Oddy
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12:40pm Fri 6 Feb 09
Biased reporting on BNP members is, unfortunately, a fact. I, during my time in the BNP, was caught driving whilst using my mobile, the headline in the local paper was “BNP Councillor fined”, anti-BNP reporting. The same week I rescued a man from committing suicide by drowning in the sea outside my home, the headline read “Ex-soldier and Father of 3, John Oddy” non-favourable reporting.
It is well know that these things happen and the BNP have grown to accept it, they know that the press will leap at any chance they have to show them in a bad light. Charlotte committed an offence (seven years ago) yet how many of the other candidates have had their antecedents looked into, their misdemeanours are not as newsworthy as a BNP candidates.
You and I both know that you cannot believe everything you read in the papers, apart from the Daily Sports “Bus on the Moon” story!. I would like to think that readers of this story will take it for what it is, a piece of muck-raking to discredit a BNP candidate, in doing that they can then disregard it and look towards voting for a candidate who will best serve their community.
Brian Sewer
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12:59pm Fri 6 Feb 09
And the noodles are good for a balanced diet! dont forget the people of waddon are victims of crime and gun culture sweeping croydon as well and the stench of some of the far left views on here will be enough to send voters backing the noodles no matter what they say
Councillor John Oddy
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12:59pm Fri 6 Feb 09
Just to put your figures into context, the population at the moment is approx 61,000,000, this figure was estimated to be the population in 2012, if we continue at the same rate of immigration it is forecasted that by 2012 the population will be 70 million. Labour’s forecast was that we would not reach this figure until 2025.
Tom, without sounding cynical, we all know that immigration is out of control, Labour, in their bid for Globalisation, opened our borders not only to the EU but to the rest of the world and it isn’t working. It has to be stopped and if the mainstream parties won’t do it then you have to vote for a party that will.
NastyMrTom
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1:07pm Fri 6 Feb 09
The bias against the BNP isn't restricted to the press. It's reflected in our whole society including our laws. This is because the majority of people find what the BNP represents unacceptable. Members may well feel they are victims of the truth but the reality is they are victims of public attitude. We don't like racists.
NastyMrTom
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1:17pm Fri 6 Feb 09
Councillor John Oddy wrote:sorry but your numbers are wrong. I don't think you mean 70m by 2012 ?
NastyMrTom, Just to put your figures into context, the population at the moment is approx 61,000,000, this figure was estimated to be the population in 2012, if we continue at the same rate of immigration it is forecasted that by 2012 the population will be 70 million. Labour’s forecast was that we would not reach this figure until 2025. Tom, without sounding cynical, we all know that immigration is out of control, Labour, in their bid for Globalisation, opened our borders not only to the EU but to the rest of the world and it isn’t working. It has to be stopped and if the mainstream parties won’t do it then you have to vote for a party that will.
You also seem to be suggesting that immigration is responsible for all growth which is incorrect.
I think you'll see the mainstream parties will all have a stronger stance on immigration policy in the next election. The BNP are not the solution to thios problem or any other for that matter.
lilyjane
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1:27pm Fri 6 Feb 09
This is an adult, deliberately writing nameless, threatening letters. Surely this says something about a person’s character- if not state of mind.
‘Regretting being caught’ is at best childish, at worse non-repentant of this bad bad deed.
This country is facing far worse situations than immigration;
How can anyone be justifying a core target of, 'good indigenous Caucasian British' only?? This is what the BNP stands for. I wish I had the statistics to show you...
The Italian workers have nothing to do with such ‘open doors into our country’- please stop blurring current events into your unthought -out arguments to strengthen weak arguments. Weak- because you are not really saying what your party voices behind closed doors.
Charlotte please define the 3rd world?
The BNP is not Moderate- a party that judges the British by their religions and sexual orientations- is far from it.
Surely the BNP needs to select one such, 'good British subject' to stand for its causes. If inhumane cons are all you have, I rest my case.
Bob Peel
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1:46pm Fri 6 Feb 09
"Charlotte please define the 3rd world?"
I'll do that for you now:
Britain whilst under the New Labour jackboot.
They have given the fat of the land away to non-Brits who have targetted us for our excellent benefits system that they have not contributed to but which only ever coughs up fully for the asylum seeking johnny-foreigner, under-age mothers and those who see popping out children into an unstable family as a career option. Add to that list the malingerers and not at all sick disability merchants too.
Before you lose your ratters over what I have written I assume 'Brits' to be anyone who has contributed to the system, irrespective of colour, creed or religion.
Councillor John Oddy
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1:55pm Fri 6 Feb 09
Labour predicted the population of the UK in 2025 would be 70m further reports by Yougov and the ONS show that this figure will be reached by 2012.
I accept what you say in regards to bias shown to the BNP but, once again, recent reports show more public support for the BNP is growing, hence the mass panic of the mainstream parties. In some way this as come about by freedom of access, via the internet, to BNP sites that prove it’s not about racism, it’s about realism.
I do not deny that there are racists in the BNP but, like I said before, we have racists, including pro-racism, in all walks of life. Of course the BNP does not have all the answers, who does?, some BNP policies are great, others good and some weak and unworkable. We have to start somewhere if we are to rebuild this nation. An immediate halt to immigration, regardless of colour, sort-out what we already have, empty our jails of those to be deported, remove all failed asylum seekers and illegal immigrants, clear the decks so we can see the wood from the trees, simple but effective. From that position we have a capped immigration policy and a strict Asylum policy, if you have travelled over 15 countries to get here you are not an Asylum seeker, you are a financial burden and we don’t want you.
Tom, it’s not rocket science, yes the left-wing mamby-pamby groups would have kittens but let them, if they feel that strong about it go with them and see how long they would be tolerated in the countries they go to. We have to stop cow-towing to these people for the sake of Political Correctness!.
croyman
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1:56pm Fri 6 Feb 09
croyman
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2:08pm Fri 6 Feb 09
Bob Peel
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2:18pm Fri 6 Feb 09
A lot of immigrant workers today are in fact illegals. That same number of jobs *could* be taken by some of our unemployed assuming they actually want to get off their backsides.
Then we have the mass of 'mature' students; a great many are blocking beds in hospitals because of the diseases they brought with them for treatment (HiV, TB, Yaws) and the we have the illegal immigrant/refugee with criminal tendencies.
I wasn't saying that all our ills are due to immigrants, its not that simple, but it isn't helping.
croyman
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2:23pm Fri 6 Feb 09
Councillor John Oddy
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2:34pm Fri 6 Feb 09
Uncapped immigration affects all of us, even if indirectly. You only have to look at our failing infrastructure to see that. A failing NHS, when was the last time you waited less than a hour at an A&E?, A School system that is rapidly becoming defunct, how many classes have less than 30 pupils?, An out of date housing policy that see’s local people homeless because an Asylum seeker has more kids.
It affects us all financially, whilst we, the taxpayers, pay for the upkeep of immigrants through benefits and housing, how many British families get their £1,800 per month rent paid for them?. How many low income families can afford to send money home to purchase businesses?.
Croyman, as an example, imagine you emigrated to Bagdad, decided you didn’t want to work and demanded the Government there paid you for doing nothing, on top of that you want them to pay your rent and bills. Oh, while they’re doing that, get them to build you a catholic church as well!. How long do you think you would last?.
Just saw your question re; credit crunch.
Croyman I am not a financier but I do know that when times are good I put money aside for when they are not, this usually see’s me through until things pick-up again, something this Labour Government didn’t do.
If, after bailing out the banks, they refuse to pass-on interest cuts we simply stop using them, the public, ie, the taxpayers owns Northern Rock, nationalised, if you like, so all cuts are passed on through this bank to it’s customers, very soon the main banks would see a huge drop in their account holders and either follow suit or go bust.
NastyMrTom
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2:34pm Fri 6 Feb 09
Councillor John Oddy wrote:No , the ONS report gave a prediction of 70m by 2031. Your 2012 date is wrong I can assure you.
Tom, Labour predicted the population of the UK in 2025 would be 70m further reports by Yougov and the ONS show that this figure will be reached by 2012. I accept what you say in regards to bias shown to the BNP but, once again, recent reports show more public support for the BNP is growing, hence the mass panic of the mainstream parties. In some way this as come about by freedom of access, via the internet, to BNP sites that prove it’s not about racism, it’s about realism. I do not deny that there are racists in the BNP but, like I said before, we have racists, including pro-racism, in all walks of life. Of course the BNP does not have all the answers, who does?, some BNP policies are great, others good and some weak and unworkable. We have to start somewhere if we are to rebuild this nation. An immediate halt to immigration, regardless of colour, sort-out what we already have, empty our jails of those to be deported, remove all failed asylum seekers and illegal immigrants, clear the decks so we can see the wood from the trees, simple but effective. From that position we have a capped immigration policy and a strict Asylum policy, if you have travelled over 15 countries to get here you are not an Asylum seeker, you are a financial burden and we don’t want you. Tom, it’s not rocket science, yes the left-wing mamby-pamby groups would have kittens but let them, if they feel that strong about it go with them and see how long they would be tolerated in the countries they go to. We have to stop cow-towing to these people for the sake of Political Correctness!.
I totally disagree with you about it not being rocket science. It's a hugely complex issue with many varying factors that often relate directly to the lives of venerable people. Your desire to reflect the issue as 'simple' is an attempt to take a vary varied group of people and demonise them en mass. Immigrants aren't all a drain on this country and asylum seekers aren't chancers trying to make a quick buck. It's the desire to make this issue 'black and white' no pun intended that shows the BNP have no real desire to understand and tackle the issue of immigration but to take a legitimate issue and use it for the purpose of gaining populist support whilst avoiding the necessity of being completely honest with the electorate.
The BNP are not the answer to the immigration problem because they don't want to try and understand it they just want to use it for their own benefit.
croyman
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2:43pm Fri 6 Feb 09
Councillor John Oddy
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2:58pm Fri 6 Feb 09
Immigration is only complex if you make it so.
You are inferring that to comply with EU regulations we have to take in X amount of immigrants, I am not taking any notice of EU directives in my synonym I believe we shouldn’t be in it as this is where most of our troubles stem from.
I do not use the simplification of immigration as a means to lie or deceive, I believe immigration policies could be simplified in the manner I have said, just because I say immigration is out of control does not mean I am a racist, I am purely stating a fact.
As far as immigration figures go I shall dig out the reports and give you the links.
lilyjane
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3:06pm Fri 6 Feb 09
I live in croydon, work in Islington- and have lived in both west and north london; from what I have seen in all of these places- it is the 'Caucasian British' single mum's, unemployed 10am vodka buyers, swearing at me in the cue at lunch time....
It is the Italians/ polish/ etc working....
Councillor John Oddy
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3:13pm Fri 6 Feb 09
I do not profess to be any more intelligent than the next man and I certainly do not have all the answers to all the questions, I can only answer in the way I know how to, yes I do simplify things, why make them complex when there is no need?.
You, rightly, have your own opinions on why we are in the mess we are in, if the vast majority of our problems in our infrastructure is not caused by the added use of it by immigrants then what is it caused by?.
I am not trying to be pedantic, I actually believe what I say to be true, if you can convince myself and the other readers that there is another reason that outweighs my suggestion then I will apologise. To simply accuse me without your own theory being put to the test is slightly unfair, wouldn’t you agree?.
scoffer
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3:22pm Fri 6 Feb 09
BODICA
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3:23pm Fri 6 Feb 09
If it were true that the majority of people find what the Bnp represents is unnacceptable, why? tell me is the Bnp the fastest growing political party in the UK? What is unnacceptable, is to continually accept the kind of BS you come out with. You sound like a Searchlight moron. This nasty little group would come to nothing without the financial support it gets.
I can gaurantee you one thing, if Charlotte Lewis, representing the Bnp doesn't get in this time, she definately will next time round. This Labour parties multicultural experiment is getting worse and worse by the day and the British people have had enough.
This treacherous Labour government
( which I once supported,how sickening is that?), and the BBC have too much control over the media and continually reflect an untrue and disproportionate image to reflect racial harmony. All happy families in the soaps and in the adverts, but in real life, I see a different picture entirely.
Most Labour supporters are now also voting Bnp as they are also being felt let down and stabbed in the back by their own Union with the imported labour issue. They should join Solidarity.
Charlotte Lewis would not be able to deal with the big issues that face us in Britain, but it would definately be a step in the right direction.
lilyjane
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3:25pm Fri 6 Feb 09
You might learn something.
Councillor John Oddy
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3:25pm Fri 6 Feb 09
At least you agree it would clear up some benefits!.
You are quite correct about single mothers, our benefit system is wide open to abuse. The entire system needs to be reformed and sanctions put in place that gets people back into work, there is, unfortunately, a “Benefit Culture”, why work when the Government give me beer money?.
Reforms need to be put into action where our youth are either working or on work related studies, benefits should not be made available to school leavers until they have successfully completed a work study or have been in employment.
lilyjane
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3:28pm Fri 6 Feb 09
Saying it is not what they stand for. It is not the point they are making....
croyman
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3:28pm Fri 6 Feb 09
croyman
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3:33pm Fri 6 Feb 09
croyman
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3:35pm Fri 6 Feb 09
BODICA
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3:51pm Fri 6 Feb 09
Mass Immigration and making British people second class citizens in their own country. Housing, benefits, etc.etc.
The violent crimes and drugs that come with it.
Anti white racism.
Not understanding the voice at the call centre.
Burkhas.
Rap music and the influence on my children.
Softly softly approach with young black criminals.
Allowing illegal immigrants to stay in our country, especially the criminal ones.
Sharia law.
The London bombings.
This list goes on and on.
Like I say us Engish people have had enough.
Given enough time this list could be a mile long.
Councillor John Oddy
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3:53pm Fri 6 Feb 09
I can try give you examples certainly.
As you may know I lived in and around London for 20 odd years before moving to North Wales. Whilst in London any visit to an A&E would mean a wait of up to three hours and an operation up to three years. Prior to leaving London I was told I needed a hernia operation but I would have to wait two to three years before it could be done as it wasn’t life threatening.
On moving to Wales I informed the local Hospital of my problem and was called in within eight weeks, during the operation they found I had cancer and removed it, great, best way to find out you had cancer is after it’s gone. Had I stayed in London and waited, who knows what may have happened.
Here in North Wales we do not have mass immigration and therefore our system is not under the pressure it is elsewhere, the average A&E waiting time is 20 minutes.
Recently we had six two bed roomed flats refurbished and furnished, I found out they were earmarked for six East European families coming into the area, I made this public knowledge as we have 20,000 local homeless people, the Council immediately shelved the idea and six local families got homes.
barry mcsherry
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3:55pm Fri 6 Feb 09
BODICA
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3:56pm Fri 6 Feb 09
also... Trevor Phillips.
BODICA
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3:58pm Fri 6 Feb 09
Councillor John Oddy
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4:14pm Fri 6 Feb 09
Here is one of the population predictions….
http://news.bbc.co.u
k/1/hi/uk/1657826.st
m
Hope this gives you an idea.
lilyjane
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4:20pm Fri 6 Feb 09
Do you travel, go on holiday, speak other langauages???
Or do you speak loudly when ordering chips whilst on holiday??
Thank you Bodica- it is that comment which will stop me from reading anymore.....
Councillor John Oddy
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4:24pm Fri 6 Feb 09
Just to prove it is down to immigration I add this for you, proof that the Muslim population of London grows at 10 times that of others.
London Immigration, higher birthrates and conversions to Islam are considered as major factors behind rise of the Muslim population in UK by more than 5 lakhs to 2.4 million in just four years.
Experts have also suggested a growing willingness among believers to describe themselves as Muslims because the western reaction to war and terrorism had strengthened their sense of identity.
The Muslim population multiplied 10 times faster than the rest of society, the research by the Office for National Statistics done during the period of 2004-2008 reveals. In the same period the number of Christians in the country fell by more than 2 million.
"The implications are very substantial. Some of the Muslim population, by no means all of them, are the least socially and economically integrated of any in the UK... and the one most associated with political dissatisfaction," David Coleman, Professor of Demography at Oxford University was quoted as saying
NastyMrTom
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4:33pm Fri 6 Feb 09
Councillor John Oddy wrote:John,
Tom, Here is one of the population predictions…. http://news.bbc.co.u k/1/hi/uk/1657826.st m Hope this gives you an idea.
Have you read that link because there's no mention of 70m by 2012
It's a link to a story from 2001 which is 6 years before the ONS survey you referred to.
Nobody has predicted 70m by 2012 , you've got your dates wrong by a couple of decades..
NastyMrTom
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4:50pm Fri 6 Feb 09
Councillor John Oddy wrote:
Tom, Croyman, Just to prove it is down to immigration I add this for you, proof that the Muslim population of London grows at 10 times that of others. London Immigration, higher birthrates and conversions to Islam are considered as major factors behind rise of the Muslim population in UK by more than 5 lakhs to 2.4 million in just four years. Experts have also suggested a growing willingness among believers to describe themselves as Muslims because the western reaction to war and terrorism had strengthened their sense of identity. The Muslim population multiplied 10 times faster than the rest of society, the research by the Office for National Statistics done during the period of 2004-2008 reveals. In the same period the number of Christians in the country fell by more than 2 million. "The implications are very substantial. Some of the Muslim population, by no means all of them, are the least socially and economically integrated of any in the UK... and the one most associated with political dissatisfaction," David Coleman, Professor of Demography at Oxford University was quoted as saying
Sorry , what is it that this proves ?
barry mcsherry
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4:54pm Fri 6 Feb 09
Councillor John Oddy
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5:01pm Fri 6 Feb 09
My apologies, it was 70% of population growth is due to immigration not, as I said, 70m population, once again I apologise.
I find these the most non-bias reports of immigration….
http://www.migration
watchuk.com/default.
asp
Councillor John Oddy
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5:07pm Fri 6 Feb 09
That was part of a conversation with croyman that you had commented on.
NastyMrTom
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5:12pm Fri 6 Feb 09
barry mcsherry wrote:A Nazi could have written that Barry , you're a shining example of what the BNP represents.
lilyjane i notice you come from sarf london it sounds like you were educated there as well as you have swallowed the multicultural brain washing hook line and sinker dont worry when we get in power we will deactivate you and all the other brain washed white british lemmings ,talk about turkeys voting for xmas ,if you have children or grand children its them you will have to answer to in the future when they want to know what has happened to their inheritance ,how dare you rob future generations of their birth right just so that you can feel better about your self
I'm not sure how diversity robs our children of their 'inheritance'. Take the US as an example. The most diverse nation on the planet and the most powerful. Not holding them back much is it ....
NastyMrTom
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5:29pm Fri 6 Feb 09
Councillor John Oddy wrote:
Croyman, I can try give you examples certainly. As you may know I lived in and around London for 20 odd years before moving to North Wales. Whilst in London any visit to an A&E would mean a wait of up to three hours and an operation up to three years. Prior to leaving London I was told I needed a hernia operation but I would have to wait two to three years before it could be done as it wasn’t life threatening. On moving to Wales I informed the local Hospital of my problem and was called in within eight weeks, during the operation they found I had cancer and removed it, great, best way to find out you had cancer is after it’s gone. Had I stayed in London and waited, who knows what may have happened. Here in North Wales we do not have mass immigration and therefore our system is not under the pressure it is elsewhere, the average A&E waiting time is 20 minutes. Recently we had six two bed roomed flats refurbished and furnished, I found out they were earmarked for six East European families coming into the area, I made this public knowledge as we have 20,000 local homeless people, the Council immediately shelved the idea and six local families got homes.
where do your 20,000 homeless live at the moment John ?
You're again taking a problem (the strain on inner city services) and marrying it with your feelings on immigration. You could blame every problem in this country on immigration using that basis of thought and that's precisely what the BNP wants us all to do thing is it's not a simple cause and effect issue is it and once again the over simplification is a device
lilyjane
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5:31pm Fri 6 Feb 09
NastyMrTom
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5:52pm Fri 6 Feb 09
BODICA wrote:If the BNP represents the views of the nation why do they poll less than 1% of the vote ?
NastyMrTom, If it were true that the majority of people find what the Bnp represents is unnacceptable, why? tell me is the Bnp the fastest growing political party in the UK? What is unnacceptable, is to continually accept the kind of BS you come out with. You sound like a Searchlight moron. This nasty little group would come to nothing without the financial support it gets. I can gaurantee you one thing, if Charlotte Lewis, representing the Bnp doesn't get in this time, she definately will next time round. This Labour parties multicultural experiment is getting worse and worse by the day and the British people have had enough. This treacherous Labour government ( which I once supported,how sickening is that?), and the BBC have too much control over the media and continually reflect an untrue and disproportionate image to reflect racial harmony. All happy families in the soaps and in the adverts, but in real life, I see a different picture entirely. Most Labour supporters are now also voting Bnp as they are also being felt let down and stabbed in the back by their own Union with the imported labour issue. They should join Solidarity. Charlotte Lewis would not be able to deal with the big issues that face us in Britain, but it would definately be a step in the right direction.
Never read Searchlight ... never probably will unless it's got a good sports section
Charlotte can rest easy with your assurance. We'll wait and see I suppose.
Why is it Labour's experiment ? We've had immigration since the end of WWII
Do you watch the soaps ... happy families ??
Most Labour supporters are voting BNP ?? .... erm no they're not are they your just making this stuff up
I'm not sure Charlotte can deal with the big issues in her own life let alone any others but if she wants a crack at it then let her try
Oh and it's Boudica isn't it ?
barry mcsherry
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5:56pm Fri 6 Feb 09
lilyjane
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6:00pm Fri 6 Feb 09
barry mcsherry
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6:10pm Fri 6 Feb 09
lilyjane
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6:12pm Fri 6 Feb 09
NastyMrTom
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6:16pm Fri 6 Feb 09
barry mcsherry wrote:
ask the native americans what they think of diversity and wether its ever held them back ,was they not once the majority in the america,s look whats happened to them in little over two hundred years ,i wonder if they were told to embrace diversity lol
You're right , tell you what they should form a political party and blame every problem they have on the immigrants. Then they'll storm to power , take back what's rightfully theirs .... oh hang on , no that won't work will it
NastyMrTom
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6:18pm Fri 6 Feb 09
barry mcsherry wrote:
lilyjane you honour me madam calling me mr powell as that was the last time a politician ever spoke the truth in this country thank you xxxxxxxxx
your right again ... I have to cross that river of blood every day and it's knackering my shoes
Councillor John Oddy
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6:28pm Fri 6 Feb 09
Most of our homeless are in temporary accommodation, hostels and short term holiday caravans.
You’re right, I could, if it were true blame a lot of our problems on immigration, the truth is it is not the fault of the immigrant, most of them are here to better themselves and their families, the problem lies with the Government who have allowed unchecked immigration.
I’m not saying all of this as a BNP member, I’m saying it as a private individual and it’s being repeated country wide by other non-members. I/We do not blame the immigrant we blame Labour and the mountain of failures it leaves in it’s wake.
Tom, no matter what our personal feelings are towards immigrants we, you and I, will never see a change for the better whilst we have a Labour Government, the sooner they are out of power the better it will be.
barry mcsherry
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6:33pm Fri 6 Feb 09
BODICA
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7:06pm Fri 6 Feb 09
In the Surrey elections last year Bnp candidates averaged about 10%,of the vote. In the Greater London Elections, 5% putting the Bnp's Richard Barnbrook on the Greater London Assembly. What a victory for the Bnp. So do stick to your sport. Give me a £1000 for each per cent of the vote Charlotte Lewis gets above the 1%. that is if you feel that confident about the non support of the Bnp.
We have always had immigration, not only since WW11, but not on the present unnaceptable scale. The British people do not want this massive influx and the other political parties are affraid to address the situation in fear of being labelled racist. Yes, it's got that stupid.
Even in local wards where the Bnp never stood before they managed 11% of the vote beating Labour into second place.
Brenda waters
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7:13pm Fri 6 Feb 09
BODICA
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7:46pm Fri 6 Feb 09
How about the Bnp achieving 30% of the vote in Manchester by election? bit more than your 1%. Swallow that.!! Like I said, the fastest growing political party in the UK.
Please don't boubt my words.
BODICA
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8:10pm Fri 6 Feb 09
30% in Newcastle too. Ha! Ha! we are on our way. YES!!!
barry mcsherry
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8:59pm Fri 6 Feb 09
ANNE GILES
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9:45pm Fri 6 Feb 09
BODICA
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10:51pm Fri 6 Feb 09
Victory remains sweet for those that aren't suckered into a job that is full of common purpose crap. You can't be English.
Rev. A. Braithwaite
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8:51am Sat 7 Feb 09
My only friendly advice is this :
Having looked closely at all the standing candidates, my opinon, for what it is worth, is this :
Everyone of the candidates should be supported by the residents of Waddon.
If you feel someone should be penalised for having wronged in the past, remember this : we should forgive those who have sinned in their past.
Please vote with your hearts, and do not join the baying lynch mobs which is so prevalent in British politics these days.
Thank you my good people.
Rev. A.Braithwaite.
barry mcsherry
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9:04am Sat 7 Feb 09
barry mcsherry
says...
9:06am Sat 7 Feb 09
Tommy Perkins aged 11
says...
9:08am Sat 7 Feb 09
Lee-Hoon
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9:13am Sat 7 Feb 09
Im voting BNP there seems no respec on the street amymore and somfing need to be done and soon before it get like usa
Jim Ryan
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9:18am Sat 7 Feb 09
If a good man of the cloth can forgive those who sinned 12 years ago then thats good enough for me
barry mcsherry
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9:24am Sat 7 Feb 09
Mary Mcfadden
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9:37am Sat 7 Feb 09
Only this week some scruffy dirty people knocked on my door in this bad weather to ask me on the freezing doorstep not to vote for the bnp.Im so annoyed with this i asked them who they were and it turns out its socialist something or other some rag bag communist set up trouble makers well i got nes for these people i AM going to vote for them for annoying me.
barry mcsherry
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9:43am Sat 7 Feb 09
BODICA
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9:43am Sat 7 Feb 09
scoffer
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9:58am Sat 7 Feb 09
I hope not
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11:35am Sat 7 Feb 09
I would not vote for your party as I do not agree with your views, or the bullying nature of some of your supporters and having a convicted criminal as a potential councillor, just re-inforces the negative view most 'normal' people have of your party anyway.
scoffer
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12:29pm Sat 7 Feb 09
I hope not wrote:Grow up and stop being so silly 'I hope not'... What vile diatribe ? where ? when ? I've double checked this thread and cannot find any racist or vile comments left by anyone... you're rambling away with the same scare mongering tactics that were used against an old war hero Cr2 on here recently who is most probably now too frightened to post anything on here anymore after being subjected to the most foul, insulting, comments, i've ever witnessed on a public, local, family, news forum - someone was even threatening to call his place of work and report him for saying he intended to vote for Charolotte Lewis in the Waddon election!! that's extremism at it's worst!! - something I notice 'I hope s not' conveniently does not comment about, but saw first hand the bullying directed towards this elderly gentleman.
I have sat back and read these comments on here, mainly with dismay, the usual people on here spouting the same vile diatribe. Well when the election is over and the BNP do not get in, then hopefully you'll all disappear back to your holes. Or are you going to continue to inflict your ignorant, mainly uneducated views on the rest of us and then accuse us of being marxist extremists or extreme left wing, or communists... blah blah blah. No I am none of the above, I am a decent hard working person who is fed up with racist fools resorting to low level insults because they dont have the intelligence to form a good argument. I would not vote for your party as I do not agree with your views, or the bullying nature of some of your supporters and having a convicted criminal as a potential councillor, just re-inforces the negative view most 'normal' people have of your party anyway.
We are all hardworking, decent, honest, people striving to make this country a better place for everyone to live in... you accusing people of being filthy racist fools just because you do not like their political views, is silly and childish... thank goodness decent, honest, folk are just ignoring your negative comments and rejecting the same old same ridiculous policies offered by new labour and new Tory regimes... taking us into illegal wars is - obscene... allowing foreign workers to take British jobs while British workers lay idle - is obscene... allowing imported criminals to use knives and guns on our streets and fill-up our prisons - is obscene... the list is endless missey, so I suggest you just get used to reading sensible comments from polite contributors and forget the insults in an attempt to stop people from voting for Charlotte!!
I hope not
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12:52pm Sat 7 Feb 09
What bit of not supporting people who's political views are racist, including BNP candidates did you not understand ?
I am going to continue to challenge you and other racists on here, if you can't handle it when someone calls you what you are and you do not have the intelligence to respond without childish idiotic comments as usual, then don't waste your time making them.
You are a laughing stock on here because you just cannot handle it when someone tells the truth and when they challenge you and can only respond according to your level of intelligence, which judging by your previous entries, does not appear to be too high.
I hope not
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1:05pm Sat 7 Feb 09
In addition, perhaps you forget that you yourself have been exceptionally rude to him in the past, check back on the threads and have a look, but now that he disagrees with Tom, he's suddenly your new best friend?
How shallow
croydonkid
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1:23pm Sat 7 Feb 09
Spouting the same things as fact with little or no evidence. Using any race related or immigration stories as proof of their racist beliefs and shouting down anyone who stands up to them as a leftie extremist.
They are like pathetic children trying to bully people into thinking their way.
Grow up losers.
I fully expect to be shouted down over my opinions which in reality ony serves to make my point!
scoffer
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1:31pm Sat 7 Feb 09
I googled the subject of political criminals - not just standing as 'candidates'... but elected officials in Labour and Conservatives Councils up and down the country - there's dozens and dozens of serving Councillors convicted of all manner of nasty crimes... if it's the worst thing in the world that this candidate did something wrong many years ago - then what about those dozens of criminals in the Labour and Tory parties ? You cannot have it both ways and just single out this one person... and as it happens, the electorate are beginning to see the wider picture and realise that Labour, Tory, Liberal, have many, many, more criminals in their parties and if it's not a big issue with others then why now ? well we all know the answer to that - the B.N.P. spill the beans on political corruptness, and that hurts many individuals - so the main three parties like to keep it a cosy, three-in-a-bed routine you rub my back and she'll rub mine!! rofl!!
N.Gregory
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1:51pm Sat 7 Feb 09
I dont think the bnp could possibly will win this seat; but politically if they came second it would be a tremendous result for them and would help them with the 2009 European elections where they have a very realistic chance of gaining a seat
I hope not
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2:22pm Sat 7 Feb 09
The simple fact is that I am not an extremist and I wonder why you feel the need to label everyone who disagrees with you one.
As for CR2 being a 'war hero', then he should know all about respect and maybe should start showing some. He hasn't been bullied, far from it, but turning every subject into OAP Watch to the exclusion of all others and being very rude and disrespectful and quite arrogant in the process is going to provoke a reaction. I am not attacking, I am stating a fact.
As for corruption, well it's in all walks of life, not just politics as I've said to you before, however, this is about someone attempting to gain a seat. My advice to the party that wants the seat is to stake a candidate that is transparent and has no skeletons, they do exist, although maybe they are harder to find in certain political parties.
scoffer
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5:20pm Sat 7 Feb 09
s ? stop talking rot by saying it matters not that Labour and Conservatives have had dozens of elected Councillors arrested and convicted up and down the country for many, many, crimes and just because THESE people are not standing in Waddon - it does not matter ?? if it does not matter about Labour and Conservative convictions why is it a problem with Charolotte's spent conviction ?
The rest of your waffle is not worth replying to... your lucky i've even bothered replying to your crud on here!! And how refreshing to see someone from the clergy at long last making sensible opinion's instead of hiding behind their political glove puppet masters!! lmao!!
ANNE GILES
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10:47pm Sat 7 Feb 09
scoffer
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11:12am Sun 8 Feb 09
scoffer
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11:21am Sun 8 Feb 09
ANNE GILES wrote:Lighten up a tad Anne... I never saw you complaining when extremist nastyoltom was illegally posting up peoples names, adddresses, and telephone numbers - you even posted up sarcastically about the so called data protection act not working!! rofl!! And if you engage in lavatorial humour on this website - then it's not surprising you attract this kind of attention... Ron's a good bloke, and has a very good sense of humour - something we should all cherish!! But can we just keep to this topic please, otherwise it get's very complicated with little tit-bits of waffle being added to the most popular thread for a long time on here!!
Well - when ron duron, another BNP supporter, decided to put his obscene poem on five of my previous blogs recently, he never realised that harrassment is a criminal offence. Perhaps one has to be a criminal to be a member.
N.Gregory
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6:20pm Sun 8 Feb 09
I hope not
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6:23pm Sun 8 Feb 09
ANNE GILES
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9:27pm Sun 8 Feb 09
Brian Sewer
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9:30am Mon 9 Feb 09
Hope the noodles and greens do well if they dont it does not really matter they cant do well all the time
croyman
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10:39am Mon 9 Feb 09
Brian seems a little unfocused, not knowing when the big event takes place and then saying it doesn't matter if they don't do well. He can't lose then, can he. As for the reverent's wishy washy words of wisdom: yes let's forgive everyone, but we don't have to vote for them if they show no remorse for their criminal actions. Some of the other posters are just bitter and twisted and like to blame their lack of success in life on other people. Bodica, your list of things that make you angry is unbelievable. Luckily none of the BNP supporters seem to be very bright so at least we're having a good laugh reading the posts. I wonder if I'm lucky enough to get a reply from Scoffer now?
scoffer
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10:59am Mon 9 Feb 09
I hope not wrote:Morning all!! I see this thread is still one of the most popular threads on the C.G.!! And 'I hope not' ? sorry you've lost me completly... engaging in conversation with people who cannot accept sensible, alternative, political, opinions in a polite fashion without attacking decent people on here, seems to show the level of extremism some individuals are willing to take their argument - which is ? they've never said!! they've never said in any shape of form what political party they support... which tends to imply they are just internet disruptoprs and extremists... on the one hand they call anyone who voices support fot the party we shall not name for fear of sending them to their G.P. with another bout of depression as to be vile and obscene, yet they do not offer any political solutions to the mounting problems facing this country of ours.
See Scoffer, you do not have the intelligence, no point me wasting my time if the lights aren't on. Sorry you seem incapable of understanding simple arguments without resorting to childish comments, ah well, whatever you're used to I guess. I had no idea how 'lucky' I was - that you deemed me worthy to reply. Thank you for brightening up what has been a miserable day. Oh the comedy.
They just want the same old same... just like Gordon Brown - 'it's a world-wide recession' or 'it's a difficult phase we are going through' keep taking the medice - it's nasty and horrible but it's good for you!! Err... sorry, that used to work - but the electorate are starting to wake up and are abadoning those politicians who are viewed as abadoning us the voter's... the extremists on here just keep offering don't vote for you know who or else... look at the 'ol war hero Cr2 recently attacked for daring to say he was intending to vote for 'that' party ?? we had people queuing up to get him thrown out of his job at Mayday University Hospital!! These are the type of people on this forum not saying who they support politically, but just don't vote for 'that' party or else!!
British people don't like being told who to, or who not to vote for... It's up to them who they vote for so I can't understand how marxist extremists are being allowed to use this forum to post their bile and hate... extremists have been challenged on here in a polite and sensible way - they have been exposed as hypocrites in what they write and say, on the one hand supporting multicultralism on the other hand they've done nothing to get out on the street's of Croydon to prevent the senseless murders of young people - and are expecting the police to solve everything as if they have a magic wand!! instead they've waisted their time on here attacking anyone and everyone who says anything about the appalling levels of stabbings and crime in Croydon and just saying Croydon is great... well it used to be - and CRIME is the number one thing spoiling it.
scoffer
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11:07am Mon 9 Feb 09
croyman wrote:Come on croyman - nail yer colours to the mast... you don't want B.N.P. that's fair enough... who do you want ? tell us in say... less than one hundred words for you homework project why people should vote for your party and why ?
Anne, of course Scoffer misunderstood something you said. That's what he does all the time. In fact, I have not seen him understand anything yet. Brian seems a little unfocused, not knowing when the big event takes place and then saying it doesn't matter if they don't do well. He can't lose then, can he. As for the reverent's wishy washy words of wisdom: yes let's forgive everyone, but we don't have to vote for them if they show no remorse for their criminal actions. Some of the other posters are just bitter and twisted and like to blame their lack of success in life on other people. Bodica, your list of things that make you angry is unbelievable. Luckily none of the BNP supporters seem to be very bright so at least we're having a good laugh reading the posts. I wonder if I'm lucky enough to get a reply from Scoffer now?
NastyMrTom
says...
12:20pm Mon 9 Feb 09
Rev. A. Braithwaite wrote:
Many parishoners have stopped to speak to me after my sunday service to discuss the forthcoming by-election in Waddon. My only friendly advice is this : Having looked closely at all the standing candidates, my opinon, for what it is worth, is this : Everyone of the candidates should be supported by the residents of Waddon. If you feel someone should be penalised for having wronged in the past, remember this : we should forgive those who have sinned in their past. Please vote with your hearts, and do not join the baying lynch mobs which is so prevalent in British politics these days. Thank you my good people. Rev. A.Braithwaite.
Rev Braithwaite , you don't appear on the Southwark Diocese list under Croydon Deanery and I'd be very interested to hear more of your views. Which church is it that you worship at ?
NastyMrTom
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12:25pm Mon 9 Feb 09
We had the full cross-section of society posting their support for the BNP. Vicars , kids , Asians , floating voters , intimidated women and the usual morons - all within a few minutes of each other.
Made me laugh even if it was the most p'poor attempt ... thanks BNP !!
scoffer
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12:39pm Mon 9 Feb 09
NastyMrTom wrote:What's yer problem nastyoltom ? not all on yer 'hit' list are they ? rofl!! Go on then, same question to you - which political party do you support ? and why ?? if you don't answer it will prove yer nothing other than an nasty extremist with an axe to grind.
It was a busy Sat morning on here wasn't it. We had the full cross-section of society posting their support for the BNP. Vicars , kids , Asians , floating voters , intimidated women and the usual morons - all within a few minutes of each other. Made me laugh even if it was the most p'poor attempt ... thanks BNP !!
lilyjane
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12:40pm Mon 9 Feb 09
I hope not
says...
1:01pm Mon 9 Feb 09
croyman
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1:08pm Mon 9 Feb 09
Ok, please quote some marxist extremist views that have ever been posted on here. I have looked and can't find any. Please enlighten me. You wonder why people are allowed to use this forum to post their bile and hate... the only bile and hate comes from you and your buddies. As an example, on the veteran story, a writer called Harry made a comment and you and Brian thought it was funny to refer to him as someone who sells the Big Issue at East Croydon Station. I would say that was intended to insult. You say that 'extremists have been challenged on here in a polite and sensible way,
(by the way, you keep pointing this out a lot). Can you name one example of that? Then you continue to rant about CR2 being 'attacked' for wanting to vote BNP. Excuse me, but who was insulting and attacking CR2 in the first place? Only when CR2 started talking about his voting preference did you suddenly become his/her best friend. Scoffer, it seems to me that you just purposely 'misunderstand' other people's views and twist things, you hurl insult after insult and then just deny it, and you then call this 'sensible and polite'. You're far from sensible and far from polite. I wonder whether you have a very boring homelife. Does the missus not understand you? Is that why you seem to want to hog the limelight on the internet? Oh dear, I can see it now...Poor Scoffer/Brian/rest of the clan...
NastyMrTom
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1:52pm Mon 9 Feb 09
scoffer wrote:
NastyMrTom wrote: It was a busy Sat morning on here wasn't it. We had the full cross-section of society posting their support for the BNP. Vicars , kids , Asians , floating voters , intimidated women and the usual morons - all within a few minutes of each other. Made me laugh even if it was the most p'poor attempt ... thanks BNP !!What's yer problem nastyoltom ? not all on yer 'hit' list are they ? rofl!! Go on then, same question to you - which political party do you support ? and why ?? if you don't answer it will prove yer nothing other than an nasty extremist with an axe to grind.
ROFL
Kathy Webster
says...
2:16pm Mon 9 Feb 09
First timer on here
Seems to be a lot of people moaning about the bnp yet they are a properly registerd party, seems a load of tripe all these complaints so im happy to give them my vote .Thanx
croyman
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2:20pm Mon 9 Feb 09
babs from croydon
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2:21pm Mon 9 Feb 09
Im voting BNP if just one more idiot tells me not to honestly; some of you people on here what you like!!!
croyman
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2:40pm Mon 9 Feb 09
cr2
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2:45pm Mon 9 Feb 09
lilyjane
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3:08pm Mon 9 Feb 09
Exeter Jim
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3:25pm Mon 9 Feb 09
I always suspect those who tell you not to vote for the BNP; but then refuse to disclose their political preference; to usually be working for some communist rag-bag organisation????....
..//
-- vote for who you like -- it's called a -- democracy the last time I checked........//
ANNE GILES
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3:31pm Mon 9 Feb 09
scoffer
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5:49pm Mon 9 Feb 09
And Jaqi Smith ? Labours Home Secretary is another high-ranking official embroiled in yet another expenses fiddle to come to light with their second homes - she's the lovely lady that wore a stab-proof vest in Peckham on a walkabout with her minders and said she felt perfectly safe!! no wonder the British public are getting fed up of same old same!! ROFL!!
Dorothy Wilson
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8:25pm Mon 9 Feb 09
Bryn Davis
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6:32am Tue 10 Feb 09
Good luck to Charlotte
scoffer
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10:13am Tue 10 Feb 09
Charlotte L
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10:17am Tue 10 Feb 09
Any people critisizing my anti-immigration stance, from the comfort of their owner-occupied nice house in a 99.9% white area can go to hell. I'm an ethnic minority in the area where I live. I've been on Croydon Council's housing waiting list for 14 years. There are Afghan asylum seekers living upstairs from me, they have the same landlord as me, but they've got double-glazing & I haven't. That means that they don't have to wear a coat indoors in the winter like what I do. They're more crooked than my dog's back legs - and I know this for a fact. I may have committed a crime based on principles, not for any financial gain, but I'm not signing on the dole whilst working & driving without insurance like what the Afghans upstairs do. I've had such trouble with them obstructing my access to my electricity meter, & the landlord takes their side. I've been reduced to getting a step-ladder & climbing over a wall, risking injury, to read my electric meter just because of people who shouldn't even be in this country. One day last week, I was awoken at 5:45am by home office officials, accompnied by police officers, banging on the Afghans' door. Unfortunately, they have not been deported.
If I won the lottery though, & was a millionaire, I'd still support the BNP - infact I'd bank-roll them.
lilyjane
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11:42am Tue 10 Feb 09
croydonkid
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1:09pm Tue 10 Feb 09
Nick Griffin (not!!!)
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1:34pm Tue 10 Feb 09
Old communists wont live in communist states -//- they much prefer the freedom of the west!!! but they still practice the same old underhanded outdated dirty tricks that still does not work for them
Communists have gone skint in this country at standing at local elections because they cannot muster any support from the local communities??? -//- that only leaves them posting rubbish on local news forums, which has NO effect on how the electorate vote........ kinda sums up how low they've sunk???? yahahahahahaha
scoffer
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2:12pm Tue 10 Feb 09
Nick Griffin (not!!!) wrote:Indeed... nastyoltom at work again no doubt... i'd give her 1/10 just for the effort of giving everyone a big laff on here - fakers and shakers... jeez... some of these plastic extremists on here need some more re-training in the marxist school of disruption!! rofl!! Good to see Cr2 back on here - he was bullied by the extremists hoping to have him thrown out of M.U.H. - for daring to say he was voting for THE party of joined-up thinking!! they lost again!! lmao!!
If anyone really thinks that the BNP candidate is contributing anything on here then they are mistaken -//- but very amusing!!!! Old communists wont live in communist states -//- they much prefer the freedom of the west!!! but they still practice the same old underhanded outdated dirty tricks that still does not work for them Communists have gone skint in this country at standing at local elections because they cannot muster any support from the local communities??? -//- that only leaves them posting rubbish on local news forums, which has NO effect on how the electorate vote........ kinda sums up how low they've sunk???? yahahahahahaha
NastyMrTom
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2:54pm Tue 10 Feb 09
Nick Griffin (not!!!) wrote:
If anyone really thinks that the BNP candidate is contributing anything on here then they are mistaken -//- but very amusing!!!! Old communists wont live in communist states -//- they much prefer the freedom of the west!!! but they still practice the same old underhanded outdated dirty tricks that still does not work for them Communists have gone skint in this country at standing at local elections because they cannot muster any support from the local communities??? -//- that only leaves them posting rubbish on local news forums, which has NO effect on how the electorate vote........ kinda sums up how low they've sunk???? yahahahahahaha
so why are you posting on here ?
Why aren't there any posts at all from people admitting to being Communists & Marxists ?
If you morons spent a little less time fighting this imaginary foe and accusing anyone who has an opposing view of being an extremist and a little more time organising yourselves and recruiting people that weren't clearly retards then maybe you wouldn't have to spend all your time posting twaddle on every thread. How much of their empty little existences do you all waste doing this and for what so you can make your membership look like ignorant childish bullies who can't argue a point without frothing at the mouth and repeating the same meaningless cack.
If I was a racist I'd be bloody embarrassed frankly it's p'poor
mavis & bert
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3:27pm Tue 10 Feb 09
we are two 80yr olds who will be voting bnp
we feel us pensioners are getting a raw deal over many things so we will for the first time refuse to vote labour
Goodbye
Charlotte L
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3:54pm Tue 10 Feb 09
Emma 00
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4:17pm Tue 10 Feb 09
NastyMrTom wrote:You are ashamed to admit you are a some communist thug with problems
Nick Griffin (not!!!) wrote: If anyone really thinks that the BNP candidate is contributing anything on here then they are mistaken -//- but very amusing!!!! Old communists wont live in communist states -//- they much prefer the freedom of the west!!! but they still practice the same old underhanded outdated dirty tricks that still does not work for them Communists have gone skint in this country at standing at local elections because they cannot muster any support from the local communities??? -//- that only leaves them posting rubbish on local news forums, which has NO effect on how the electorate vote........ kinda sums up how low they've sunk???? yahahahahahahaso why are you posting on here ? Why aren't there any posts at all from people admitting to being Communists & Marxists ? If you morons spent a little less time fighting this imaginary foe and accusing anyone who has an opposing view of being an extremist and a little more time organising yourselves and recruiting people that weren't clearly retards then maybe you wouldn't have to spend all your time posting twaddle on every thread. How much of their empty little existences do you all waste doing this and for what so you can make your membership look like ignorant childish bullies who can't argue a point without frothing at the mouth and repeating the same meaningless cack. If I was a racist I'd be bloody embarrassed frankly it's p'poor
I suspect you are someone with some medical disorder after reading your views who is bitter and twisted the way the nhs must have treated you
Dont attack others bcos you have some 'issues' in your life i pity your wife if you had one cretin !
NastyMrTom
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4:41pm Tue 10 Feb 09
Emma 00 wrote:
NastyMrTom wrote:You are ashamed to admit you are a some communist thug with problems I suspect you are someone with some medical disorder after reading your views who is bitter and twisted the way the nhs must have treated you Dont attack others bcos you have some 'issues' in your life i pity your wife if you had one cretin !Nick Griffin (not!!!) wrote: If anyone really thinks that the BNP candidate is contributing anything on here then they are mistaken -//- but very amusing!!!! Old communists wont live in communist states -//- they much prefer the freedom of the west!!! but they still practice the same old underhanded outdated dirty tricks that still does not work for them Communists have gone skint in this country at standing at local elections because they cannot muster any support from the local communities??? -//- that only leaves them posting rubbish on local news forums, which has NO effect on how the electorate vote........ kinda sums up how low they've sunk???? yahahahahahahaso why are you posting on here ? Why aren't there any posts at all from people admitting to being Communists & Marxists ? If you morons spent a little less time fighting this imaginary foe and accusing anyone who has an opposing view of being an extremist and a little more time organising yourselves and recruiting people that weren't clearly retards then maybe you wouldn't have to spend all your time posting twaddle on every thread. How much of their empty little existences do you all waste doing this and for what so you can make your membership look like ignorant childish bullies who can't argue a point without frothing at the mouth and repeating the same meaningless cack. If I was a racist I'd be bloody embarrassed frankly it's p'poor
That's right ... a medical disorder that means I can spell , punctuate and form grammatically correct sentences.
Run along and do sum lernin eh
lilyjane
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4:46pm Tue 10 Feb 09
I suggest you review the column and re-read NastyMrTom's posts;
As I see no thug- I see a well executed, evidenced, fact based point of view.
There is slight irony in some parts- that unfortunately does get lost in the translation. "bcos" some people can't see the wood for the trees.
As well as aesthetics being of such strong importance to you people, you now pity spouses of those who are unable to sling mud.
I know who I’d prefer to live next door to.
Kind regards,
Lilyjane.
NastyMrTom
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5:21pm Tue 10 Feb 09
Charlotte L wrote:Charlotte,
I will show remorse for sending threatenig letters to those HLS people, when they show remorse for torturing animals. Have any of you who are critisizing me ever seen photos/videos taken inside a laboratory? It's extremely upsetting for an animal lover like me. To comment on my actions, you must first put things in to context by seeing what I've seen. Any people critisizing my anti-immigration stance, from the comfort of their owner-occupied nice house in a 99.9% white area can go to hell. I'm an ethnic minority in the area where I live. I've been on Croydon Council's housing waiting list for 14 years. There are Afghan asylum seekers living upstairs from me, they have the same landlord as me, but they've got double-glazing & I haven't. That means that they don't have to wear a coat indoors in the winter like what I do. They're more crooked than my dog's back legs - and I know this for a fact. I may have committed a crime based on principles, not for any financial gain, but I'm not signing on the dole whilst working & driving without insurance like what the Afghans upstairs do. I've had such trouble with them obstructing my access to my electricity meter, & the landlord takes their side. I've been reduced to getting a step-ladder & climbing over a wall, risking injury, to read my electric meter just because of people who shouldn't even be in this country. One day last week, I was awoken at 5:45am by home office officials, accompnied by police officers, banging on the Afghans' door. Unfortunately, they have not been deported. If I won the lottery though, & was a millionaire, I'd still support the BNP - infact I'd bank-roll them.
You're not allowed to claim 'the dole' as an asylum seeker.
If you 'know' they're abusing the system why don't you just report them ?
There aren't any 99.9% white areas in Croydon overall though it's about 2/3rds white so you're not in the minority.
I'm intrigued as to what your landlord says about your meter access and why you need to read it so much ?
Lastly , have you ever met an asylum seeker who's claim you believed. Do you think there are any ?
NastyMrTom
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5:50pm Tue 10 Feb 09
lilyjane wrote:
Dear Emma, I suggest you review the column and re-read NastyMrTom's posts; As I see no thug- I see a well executed, evidenced, fact based point of view. There is slight irony in some parts- that unfortunately does get lost in the translation. "bcos" some people can't see the wood for the trees. As well as aesthetics being of such strong importance to you people, you now pity spouses of those who are unable to sling mud. I know who I’d prefer to live next door to. Kind regards, Lilyjane.
To be fair my wife is probably more with Emma on this one , lol
lilyjane
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5:58pm Tue 10 Feb 09
scoffer
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7:34pm Tue 10 Feb 09
Charlotte L
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10:12pm Tue 10 Feb 09
The Afghans upstairs were asylum seekers, I believe they were granted 'leave to remain' . Rest assured, I MOST CERTAINLY DID phone the benefit fraud hotline about him fiddling the dole.
It is my right to have access to my electricity meter, & my right to read it as frequently or infrequently as I want.
Technically speaking, there are NO genuine asylum seekers in Britain, as they're supposed to claim asylum in the FIRST safe country they come accross. So unless there are Irish or French asylum seekers.....
NastyMrTom
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2:03pm Wed 11 Feb 09
They're refugees if they've been granted leave to remain. The people upstairs don't represent all asylum seekers & refugees though so don't take their actions as the norm for everyone.
There's many factors in why asylum seekers come to this country. Often they have no choice where they are taken by smugglers. Sometimes they come here because they have family and communities that already exist here. Often they have travelled through countries that aren't safe and don't offer them the same opportunity to stay.
The UK only houses about 2% of the world's refugees
Only about 1% of applicants are found to have arrived via 'safe' countries and they are refused
Do you not like these people because you think they're taking something from you ? It's strange that you should feel so strongly about the rights of animals but see the rights of these people in a negative light
croyman
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4:01pm Wed 11 Feb 09
The Charlotte writing on here is a bitter and twisted individual, who has had a lot of issues in her life that she is incapable of dealing with, she blames her own inadequacies on immigration (LOL)as this is much easier than looking at herself in the mirror and starting to face a few facts about herself. She has a string of broken relationships behind her and is very likely single. Sad.
croyman
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4:02pm Wed 11 Feb 09
The Charlotte writing on here is a bitter and twisted individual, who has had a lot of issues in her life that she is incapable of dealing with, she blames her own inadequacies on immigration (LOL)as this is much easier than looking at herself in the mirror and starting to face a few facts about herself. She has a string of broken relationships behind her and is very likely single. Sad.
N Dawn
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6:11pm Wed 11 Feb 09
It seems that Labour Conservative and Liberals who have criminal acts (ther are plenty of them) are rarely reported by newspapers at there by - elections.
I hope not
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7:57pm Wed 11 Feb 09
Charlotte if your neighbours are breaking the law, get off your ar*se and report them for it, stop talking the talk and walk the walk. Good luck to all the other parties in the election tomorrow.
BODICA
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12:49pm Thu 12 Feb 09
lilyjane
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1:24pm Thu 12 Feb 09
BNPBritain
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11:50pm Thu 12 Feb 09
NastyMrTom
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10:12am Fri 13 Feb 09
croyman
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2:47pm Fri 13 Feb 09
NastyMrTom
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3:00pm Fri 13 Feb 09
not quite the majority of good , honest , decent British white folk we were lead to believe is it ...
...feel like I've been lied to , it hurts.
Oh sorry no , that's my sides
Brian Sewer
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4:14pm Sat 14 Feb 09
croyman
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8:31pm Sat 14 Feb 09
scoffer
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9:51am Mon 16 Feb 09
Brian Sewer
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9:30am Tue 17 Feb 09
croyman
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10:32am Tue 17 Feb 09
Scoffer, not very patriotic to go on hols in Portugal. What's wrong with lovely Britain? Butlin's not good enough for you?
lilyjane
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3:48pm Tue 17 Feb 09
ron-duron
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5:25pm Tue 17 Feb 09
12:40pm Thu 15 Jan 09
I have contacted CG myself asking that my post be removed if it has broken any rule of theirs or indeed law. It is certainly not my intention to do so. I merely wished to provide information to those that care that is already very much in the public domain. Lastly I would like to stress that a person's political opinion is not reason for action against them other than to be challenged in an open and honest fashion. Anyone stupid enough to take an action outside of the law or even reason would receive my total condemnation
croyman
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5:36pm Tue 17 Feb 09
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