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St George's Walk traders still struggling


Despite efforts to revive shops at St George’s Walk, traders are still struggling.

The once thriving small parade of shops off the High Street has become derelict since property giant Minerva’s £500million Park Place development collapsed.

The deserted area is set to benefit from £52,000 in central government funding to help re-invent vacant premises in Croydon and Minerva say they are working with the council to come up with an alternative to the Park Place scheme.

In an effort to revive the businesses, landlords Minerva and Chaseville Plc have been offering shorter term tenancies, with affordable rents.

Most of the units on the west side of the walk have been taken on by new businesses and independent traders.

However the east side of the walk remains deserted with boarded-up shop fronts and at least one smashed window.

Chris Ross, owner of Surrey Goldsmiths on the east side, is part of a group of traders who have taken the council to the Lands Tribunal for their part in the parade’s decline.

They argue the authority mishandled a Compulsory Purchase Order they issued for the area in 2005.

Mr Ross said: “This area will not come back until it is completely redeveloped.

“The place has been smashed up, it is terrible, in Central Croydon it is disgraceful.”

He and other traders have become increasingly concerned about vandalism, grafitti and antisocial behaviour in the area.

When they reported one incident to the council they were told CCTV in the area was not working.

A council spokeswoman said: “I’ve been advised that the CCTV camera in St. George’s Walk is in the process of being replaced.”

The Croydon Economic Development Company has been working to attract businesses to the area.

A spokesman said: “The CEDC has been working hard to reduce the number of empty commercial properties in the borough and offer affordable business accommodation to local entrepreneurs.”

A recent spot check showed five double units and two single units remained empty on the west side of the walk with 17 shops open for business.

On the east side of the walk only seven businesses were open and trading. The rest of the units were boarded up.

One of the businesses, a food shop, which is only open part time, had smashed windows which had not been repaired by the landlord.

Traders on the parade agree something needs to be done to clean up the area and admit they were struggling after the Christmas period but business seems to be picking up.

Jackie Ravate, who runs A&J Florists, said: “We are renting from Minerva, there was talk of Minerva putting some money in to do it up.

"Something needs to be done."

Michelle Fisher, who works in the new hair salon Dynamic Hair and Beauty, said business has been slow.

“It was dead when I first started, quite a few of the shops down here are closed,” she said.

A spokesman from Minerva said: “Since the Council determined the development agreement in May, Minerva has been working hard to breathe life back into St George’s walk and the surrounding retail and we remained committed to getting all the remaining units occupied.

"We have focused attention on getting a variety of users in there to create interest.

"In addition, we are also focusing on the High Street units and Park Street.

"The Police unit for 2-4 George Street will be signed up shortly which will bring a greater Police presence to the town centre as a whole."

Comments(32)

mcblount says...
1:36pm Fri 19 Mar 10

Howeverm, the Madeira Delicatessen is still doing fine. Great food, lovely shop, wonderful "espressos" which are a lot cheaper than some of the other cafes and a lot nicer.

Brian V Sewering says...
11:35am Sun 21 Mar 10

Smashed windows looks very much downtown than uptown we dont get this in worthing mates

Qvondore Noire says...
1:03pm Sun 21 Mar 10

mcblount wrote:
Howeverm, the Madeira Delicatessen is still doing fine. Great food, lovely shop, wonderful "espressos" which are a lot cheaper than some of the other cafes and a lot nicer.
Pretty much sums up the problem, people shopping around for a cheap cup of coffee won't regenerate the area!

mcblount says...
1:35pm Mon 22 Mar 10

It's not a question of shopping around for a cheap cup of coffee, it's a question of going somewhere where the coffee is of good quality. English people do not know how to make a good espresso, whereas the Madeirans do.

Fawzi Mabhouhi says...
2:45pm Mon 22 Mar 10

I much prefer the quintessential of English drinks , Earl Grey tea made by English people rather than that ghastly gritty coffee!

NastyMrTom says...
3:48pm Mon 22 Mar 10

Fawzi Mabhouhi wrote:
I much prefer the quintessential of English drinks , Earl Grey tea made by English people rather than that ghastly gritty coffee!
Zzzzzzzzzzz

sniff sniff !!

The Great Britain says...
5:26pm Mon 22 Mar 10

I tend to agree with tea drinking -
much more traditionally British,.

mcblount says...
5:27pm Mon 22 Mar 10

I have no desire to do anything which is traditionally British, though I do have a cup of Earl Grey every morning.

The Great Britain says...
7:06pm Mon 22 Mar 10

GB = Great Britain = Freedom.,

caring scoffer says...
3:02pm Tue 23 Mar 10

Anyone seen this Uncle Boko character that used to post on here ? that's if he exsists!! - got a few questions to put to him... but it seems he's run away!!... nah nah nan nah nah!! rofl!!

NastyMrTom says...
10:40am Wed 24 Mar 10

I saw him at last year's Mela , I didn't introduce myself though

mcblount says...
11:32am Wed 24 Mar 10

NastyMrTom wrote:
I saw him at last year's Mela , I didn't introduce myself though
I was with him. Would have liked to meet you. Ignore the gossip about him - they are just winding you up.

NastyMrTom says...
11:37am Wed 24 Mar 10

I will make sure to introduce the family next time ... the bullying is sadly a fact of life on here and is always ignored

caring scoffer says...
1:29pm Wed 24 Mar 10

I want to ask this Uncle Boko why he insulted my Bengali and mixed-race friends with his appalling racist comments on the B.A. forum ?

mcblount says...
4:03pm Thu 25 Mar 10

caring scoffer wrote:
I want to ask this Uncle Boko why he insulted my Bengali and mixed-race friends with his appalling racist comments on the B.A. forum ?
He didn't. He was just winding people up. He is very anti-racist. He no longer reads newspaper websites anymore anyway.

Brian V Sewering says...
12:21pm Fri 26 Mar 10

I seen it meself sunshine cant deny it total floater yar ha ha

concerned scoffer says...
1:06pm Fri 26 Mar 10

Indeed Brian... Unc got battered by the Scoffer - and never returned - came back as smelly ol' tom - and still got battered!! rofl!! I personally tore Unc aka tom a new one... she never quite got over it!! lmao!! and I see even Barristers are joining in now!! lmao!!

mcblount says...
1:41pm Fri 26 Mar 10

Tom and Boko are two different people, I can assure you.

Brian V Sewering says...
11:48am Sat 27 Mar 10

Winding who up sunshine scoffs mates were very offended by it
No wonder he ran away from us yar ha ha

bob grimley says...
1:29pm Sat 27 Mar 10

concerned scoffer wrote:
Indeed Brian... Unc got battered by the Scoffer - and never returned - came back as smelly ol' tom - and still got battered!! rofl!! I personally tore Unc aka tom a new one... she never quite got over it!! lmao!! and I see even Barristers are joining in now!! lmao!!
he had it coming scoffer , you were only defending yourself and your family from an unwarrented attack after private details were posted on here by the idiot

caring scoffer says...
2:48pm Sat 27 Mar 10

Hello bob, Brian, and Ron... indeed she did have it coming - she came to my attention with the most vile attack ever seen on a internet family forum on an elderly gentleman - one could not just stand by and allow this bullying to continue!! then, she started her hateful and bullying campaign against my good name - breaking all the rules of the forum... we of course have taken measures to protect our family against nasty vile attacks - some of the stuff has been very bad - and the contents and language used has been identical to that used by this very individual!! make of that what you will!! the attempted bullying has 'failed!!' rofl!! Ron found loads of stuff very much in the public domain that came back to haunt her!! rofl!! now pardon me whilst I post some supportive comments elsewhere!! Laters.

mcblount says...
7:59pm Sat 27 Mar 10

And that is yet another person.

caring scoffer says...
11:45am Sun 28 Mar 10

Morning all... British summer has officially arrived - snow forcast this week!! rofl!! and me thinks the Sewer has put his one and only clock back instead of forward!! ROFL!! balmy British weather we just love the rain, the snow, the sun... a truely lovely British climate we have - the freezing weather kills off the nasty, vile, bugs that lingers around in most warmer countries... now pardon me 'mcblount' who the devil are you ? this is a private conversation on here and i've seen your name a few times on here snipping-in with comments unrelated to the popular conversation taking place between contributors... now excuse me - busy people have important issues to be getting along with - I have no time whatsoever with loafing, lazy, plebs!! ring a bell Sewer ? lmao!!

Brian V Sewering says...
12:44pm Sun 28 Mar 10

Never forgot the clock scoff m8 yar har har
Cryst pal got stuffed again bruv looks like you could win your bet if they go down ha ha ha and yeah mcblonty please keep out of our speak man its not proper 2 do that sunshine
We took the kids out pony riding just love it down here in tarring mates no crime no gangs no drugs just nice ppl so anyone who dont like me saying it can go do one har ha ha ha

caring scoffer says...
5:36pm Sun 28 Mar 10

Sewer ? yawn!!

Brian V Sewering says...
7:23am Mon 29 Mar 10

Dont be like that scoff i got in croy early today and the chav residents are all in bed place is deserted ha ha
If it wasnt 4 us commuter the place would shut up shop we are the only ones keeping it going and none us even live here what a joke anyroad i got work 2b doing m8s so see you when ive got a break

caring scoffer says...
12:40pm Mon 29 Mar 10

Afternoon gang... anyone see the Sun today ? they are saying 'it's inevitable' that the British people are going to vote for that political party that I will not even mention!! rofl!! poor old numptytom can't find a single reference to it from the caring Scoffer!! lmao!! then - yet, when you google - nastymrtom along with all the unsavoury quotes she's made and pages and pages of filthy stuff emerge on your screens!! ROFL!! poor old tom - left in the slow-lane again!! second best loser!! and yes Brian i've checked my Daily Mail today and see the 'eagles' are in the bottom three!! rofl!! with Scunthorpe winning and Watford drawing - it could be curtains!! let's all support Watford v's Eagles tomorrow night!! I can sniff the cash!! sniff, sniff... gimpertom went to Epsom!! gimp, gimp, gimp... ROFL!!

miss honeymoney says...
1:12pm Mon 29 Mar 10

you're the best scoffer x

Brian V Sewering says...
3:30pm Mon 29 Mar 10

We all know who that is m8
Just packing up 2 return 2 lovely tarring now
Jealous ?

caring scoffer says...
5:00pm Mon 29 Mar 10

Yes run along Sewer!! rofl!! and watch out for those Argentine buskers sniffing around near Gatwick Airport!! lmao!! where's the gimper today ? jeez... it's dead here innit ?? time to check my recorded security footage - see if anyone has been sniffing around the Scoffer household in the dead of night - our very own P.C.S.O. beat officer checks every other day to see if any nasty problems have come our way... but with our state of the art C.C.T.V. with 24hr sound recordings thrown in - we're hoping the nasty heavy breather will be caught on camera sniffing around the Scoffer main residence.

The Great Britain says...
9:38am Tue 30 Mar 10

Hello Scoffer , Michael Caine and Trish Williams send their regards !!!! ;)

caring scoffer says...
12:12pm Tue 30 Mar 10

Afternoon all... not sure I follow you G.B. but it's better than the baffling comments from the resident gimper!! rofl!! her baffling, confused, ramblings, about many topics have left her with plenty of egg on smarmy face... no wonder Ron was having a sly ol' snigger a long time ago!! yup, her wild and daft boasts and predictions about almost every subject went belly-up as us northerners say... tom's off for some more re-training after getting herself continually humiliated lmao!! laters.


A smashed window on one of the shops Deserted: The St George's Walk shopping parade

A smashed shop window in St George's Walk

The empty parade



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